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ART
Posted 06/24/12 at 12:55 PMReply with quote #31 
Specky: "I think the best Bio can hope for in the Western Area is to keep the margin of EBK's victory in that region not too large; say under 10%. If Bio gets about 45% in the WA, he'd have done extremely well."

I agree Specky, Bio needs to poll at least 45% of the vote, which would leave APC with 35% and PMDC  with 20%.

I will stake my money on that prediction if and when you establish your Bintu Betting Office!LoL

On a serious note Specky, do not underestimate the cosmopolitan influence of most Freetonians - irrespective of tribe.

They are more sensitive to failing government policies than their upline counterparts, and will punish an incumbent party whose performance has been poor after 5 years in power.  
Gibril
Posted 06/24/12 at 07:30 PMReply with quote #32 
ART,

Spectator contends that ethnicity is more important to residents of the Western Area than hunger and poverty.  This means that Sierra Leonens should not expect a change of government soon because no matter how a government fails, the president's tribesmen in the Western Area will vote en masse for him.
Spectator 007
Posted 06/24/12 at 07:59 PMReply with quote #33 

@Honorable Gibril of the Soil: Up to a point ethnicity trumps hunger and poverty. It won't work in 2017 in the WA if the APC win this election. Di angri go don morna di western area masses by then.

 

I believe the President's ethnic groups in the WA will vote for him en massee. While no where close to a majority, there are a good number of south-easterners residing in the WA. I expect them to massively support JMB.

 

In developed nations ethnicity plays a major role in determining how people make choices. Nar poe poe  kontri lek we yone dem voter go make  sophisticated choice?

 

I bet you that in this forum, most supporters of EBK are from a certain region and the same goes for JMB - and nothing is wrong with that.

 

 

 

 
Nonpartisan
Posted 06/24/12 at 09:59 PMReply with quote #34 
Bro ART,
Had Maada Bio been able to attend the scheduled events in the US as planned, there would be a lot of chest pumping going on within the SLPP right now.  I think it is very disingenuous of you to dismiss the diaspora now that plans have fallen apart.  Before we were reading announcements that Bio would be storming California, now you want to come and tell us all of the diaspora is hard up and insignificant.  You know I am a fan of starving the party for their stupidity in repeatedly selecting losers.  With talk like yours, who knows, maybe folks will start to listen.  
Susan
Posted 06/24/12 at 10:08 PMReply with quote #35 
Nonpartisan,

How many times have you not been told to either keep your $20.00 in your pocket, donate to EBK or a charity of your choice?  Maada Bio owes you no explanation as far as his itinerary is concerned.  Why this stubbornness? 
Lollipop
Posted 06/24/12 at 10:31 PMReply with quote #36 
Susan Koroe,
Why are you angry at Nonpartisan. He had been warning you, since Adam, about the tragic consequences of electing Bio  as FB. But stubborn mules that you greengories are, you refused his wise counsel. Now look at you all today: Angry, frustrated and gnashing your muscular jaws. Please redirect your misplaced anger to your militant self. You discarded reason and stubbornly went down the rabbit hole to elect Bio. Now that you have disgraced your party with Bio, and now that he has been declared persona non grata by the U.S, what are you and the other supporters going to do? 
Nonpartisan
Posted 06/24/12 at 10:46 PMReply with quote #37 
Susan,
Shows how much you know, I am combing the internet looking for a 100-trillion Zimbabwe dollar bill to present to Bio's campaign upon his arrival in the US.  Just as the SLPP can stupidly keep picking losers as their flagbearers, I can keep telling them so as often I'd like.  
Brigadier Tokpoi
Posted 06/25/12 at 07:38 AMReply with quote #38 

I have some Somali shillings I am planning to put into good use but ideas are not coming. Now I think I will give some to the Bio campaign team as a donation and the rest to bra green ART for the broke Salone Telegraph as aid.

I hope bra green ART will be happy to recieve such a boost for his newspaper. 
SLPPNA Faction
Posted 06/25/12 at 07:52 AMReply with quote #39 

Bio cancelled his trip to the US because SLPPNA is divided into different factions.Unlike John Ben who took sides,Bio has not supported any faction, and he has told them that unless they put there house in order, he will not come here.

 

The SLPPNA people were only interested in making parties and were also planning an inauguration ceremony to mock the other faction.They failed to organise any serious meeting for Bio, as they were only interested in advancing there own personal agenda. Also, the SLPPNA left out important states and cities for Bio to visit while planning Bio's itenary. Prominent SLPPNA folks like Gembeh and the others protested, and they have vowed not to contribute to SLPPnA, but they will make a direct contribution to Bio's campaign.

 

Bio does not want to be used by any faction,as some SLPPNA folks wanted to use him to further their own personal agenda. He has told them to get their acts together or else he will ignore the SLPPNA folks.
Kissy Boy
Posted 06/25/12 at 08:17 AMReply with quote #40 
"Voting pattern in the Western Area has always been unpredictable in a free and fair election.


This is because no other region in salone has as many swing voters - educated and discerning voters as Freetown" ART

ART, the Western arae you knew before you left the shores of Sierra Leone is different from the Western arae of today. The place has been polluted with we de countryman dem wea nor know we left from we right. As of last month, many hungry folks will walk from as far as Wellington to come genuflect before the portrait of Dr. Ernest Bai Koroma three times in a row and from there go about begging for what they would eat. This shows the kind of people that have polluted the western area. The so called educated and discerning voters have had tribal cloth robed over their eyes that they see things not from Sierra Leone or national interest but from Bombali, Limba or Kenema- Mende lines. The APC strategy of Koroma is working, -"keep them hungry and make them believed you are their only source of their survival and they would come worship you and even equate you to the Lord and Savoir Jesus Christ. This is what is happening in Freetown today.
Brigadier Tokpoi
Posted 06/25/12 at 08:22 AMReply with quote #41 

Lol SLPPNA faction try another spin but this one falls flat on your badly blistered butt and I can hear you singing the song of pain. Your attempted spin is as ridiculous as it is farcical.
Spectator 007
Posted 06/25/12 at 09:24 AMReply with quote #42 
Regarding Bio's coming to the US, I asked myself this question "If indeed he was denied a visa, why has'nt any US paper written about it?". Perhaps they have and I missed it.

Just a simple question. No harm intended. I am not as durable as Bra E or Tranga Bone NP...so unu nor cuss me.
Logica
Posted 06/25/12 at 09:58 AMReply with quote #43 
Spectator 007,

Your question is well in place and no US newspaper has carried any news about a Bio visa refusal .  Bio is a master strategist.  Being the thorn that he is in the flesh of the APC, Bio likes APC news outlets making fools of themselves. He will have the last laugh when APC folks see him in the US before the end of summer.

Bio has visited the US several times after finishing his studies and going home.  Why would the US refuse him entry this time?  Besides, would the US want to be seen as taking sides in a Sierra Leonean political campaign?  
KL
Posted 06/25/12 at 10:00 AMReply with quote #44 
Specky, the question, honestly, is not whether the foolman was denied a visa, it is more about greengos accepting that there is a problem. I tell you man there is no shortage of heavyweight fulumunkus in that party who cannot see beyond their nose. They prefer to be defined by others rather than defining themselves. Empty pride!
ART
Posted 06/25/12 at 10:07 AMReply with quote #45 
"I hope bra green ART will be happy to recieve such a boost for his newspaper."

Bra ar nor want you corpor!

Ar nor de eat aramoo money that come from the aramoo Pa!LoL

  
Spectator 007
Posted 06/25/12 at 12:30 PMReply with quote #46 
@KL, King of Forum Kings: You wrote "Specky, the question, honestly, is not whether the foolman was denied a visa, it is more about greengos accepting that there is a problem".
 
But is the problem related to him not getting a visa to visit the US or is it related to political gymnastics? These days in politics, defining your opponent unfairly using "Swift-Boat" tactics is considered acceptable.
The Justiceman
Posted 06/25/12 at 03:28 PMReply with quote #47 
Art wrote:

"Ar nor de eat aramoo money that come from the aramoo Pa!LoL"

But Bio is using aramoo money to gain power for the SLPP and I want to believe you and many others in the green house benefited from his loot. But again money looted from the treasury and spent for the benefit of SLPP party and not Mama Salone is not aramoo money.
KL
Posted 06/25/12 at 04:28 PMReply with quote #48 
Specky, the answer is both. Interestingly, Bio is damaged goods and does not need to be  "Swift-Boat". Just telling the truth is enough.
Spectator 007
Posted 06/25/12 at 06:22 PMReply with quote #49 

@KofK KL: Ten four.
Nonpartisan
Posted 06/26/12 at 12:31 AMReply with quote #50 
Spec 007,
I think your real money maker for your 2012 election betting operations will be to set up a pool to see how many of the 200-something delegates that the SLPP has been boasting elected Maada Bio are really double agents. Let's see how many of them cross carpet.  Was this a set up from the word go.  This is the only way his selection will every make sense to me.  I have always suspected a sinister plot, but as events unfold I am even more convinced Maada Bio was selected by people with very ill motives.  
ART
Posted 06/26/12 at 04:02 PMReply with quote #51 
NP: "Bro ART, had Maada Bio been able to attend the scheduled events in the US as planned, there would be a lot of chest pumping going on within the SLPP right now.  I think it is very disingenuous of you to dismiss the diaspora now that plans have fallen apart."

No NP, to the contrary. I am not in any way dismissing the role and importance of Sierra Leoneans in the diaspora with regards the 2012 elections.

I was merely stating the irrefutable obvious, that it is the registered voters in salone who will be casting their votes on the 17th November.

What I am saying is that any cyberdom stratagy aimed at demonising Bio during the campaigns, will have no effect on the choice that voters will ultimately make.

Listening to the welcoming speeches yesterday at the SLPP office, you can clearly see that Bio and the party executives are not caught on the ropes, nor did they come across as being on the defensive.

Each of the speeches delivered was aimed at attcking the shortcomings and weaknesses of EBK's government.    
  
And that is the campaign strategy that will define SLPP's victory in November.

As I have said before, Western Area is going to be the decisive battle ground for both parties and to some extent the survival of PMDC as a credible political party.

Freetown is now one big melting pot - based on tribal intermarriages and socialisation processes.

For this reason, while some politicians may want to play the tribalism card in Freetown, the SLPP's 'One People One Country' slogan will go a long way to neutralise such divisive strategy.

SLPP have started to hit the president and his government where it hurts:

- The economy
- Youth unemployment
- Corruption
- Inflation
- education
- Poor health care
- Crime
- Poor policing
- Lawlessness
- Lack of leadership

 Let me repeat once again; any negative campaigning aimed at demonising Bio will backfire on APC, and they will lose the election.

As Tony Blair once said; the outcome of the 2012 elections will be decided by president Koroma's performance in office. 
Spectator 007
Posted 06/26/12 at 04:28 PMReply with quote #52 

@NP: In last year's SLPP FB primary election, Maada Bio was the strongest candidate right from the begining. The question keen obersvers had was, who would come in second; Keili or Usu Boie. Kadie's fortunes had dipped by convention time.

Let's not forget that Bio came in third at the 2005 Makeni Conbention - obtaining 1 vote less than Charlie Margai. So, he had demonstrated that he was a force to be reckoned with.

Delegates do not always place electibility over personal preference based on other factors. In November, we'll find out whether the delegates collectively made a wise choice.
PlentiGut Ambalssador
Posted 06/26/12 at 05:12 PMReply with quote #53 
Maada Bio may just be the smartest politician in salone. As he told APC yesterday in his speech, when he decides to come to the US, he will arrive in Washington DC.

Maada decided to go back to Freetown to withness the final stage of the voter ID distribution and attend important funerals, meetings and engagements. Party elders wanted him in salone at the moment, so it was a last minute decision to return back to salone.

A lot of people will be shamed when Maada decides to come here. He will be honored by his former University, American University, and will also have some high profile meetings.
Brigadier Tokpoi
Posted 06/26/12 at 05:56 PMReply with quote #54 

PlentiGut even if Bio goes to the states and spend all his time in the white house it will not make any impact because he has lost the moral high ground in failing to make the visit on a previous plan. Nobody cares anymore since you guys do not follow words with action. All this spinning will not help as it only makes SLPPers foolish braggadocios.
Gbose Gbose
Posted 06/26/12 at 06:36 PMReply with quote #55 
Brigadier Tokpoi,

You are one screwed up gbose-gbose good for nothing APC thug.  Whether Maada Bio comes to the US or not, he is still going to win the presidency.  Get that into your thick  APC GBOSE-GBOSE skull.
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