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Sierra Leone's next president looks upon as his own very crowd wow him and the unbelieving Thomases. Arieal View of the launch History in the making.
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Fifth post, one below aerial view photo. That is an enormous crowd...surely not inside the stadium. Was this outside the stadium?
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Specky, which party do you think is going to suffer the worst defeat of KKY wins?
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“Soeckt, which party do you think is going to suffer the worst defeat of KKY wins?” - KL
The one that comes last in the first round
But on a serious note, correct me if I’m wrong, but I️ think you mean which of the two main parties will be worse off. Confirm if my interpretation of your question is correct then I’ll have a response for you.
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Bra Speck et al,
I was a kid when the Siaka Stevens revolution took over Western Area with his then APC party. What I am now seeing as the adult I've become is remeniscent of the APC waves that swept the then legendary popular SLPP agbagbas like Kandeh Bureh, M.S. Mustapha and their party off their feet.
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Western area rallies are very deceitful. Folks from all parties show up for the good times. A week or so ago, we saw an APC rally with Paddle showing thousands of folks. It is what happens at the polls that matters.
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Specky, first of all sorry for the typos. Considering that SLPP had KKY all to themselves and they allowed him to leave. APC,however, is the incumbent party. Now which one of these two parties will sustain the greatest loss with a KKY win of the general election?
Deceit, you have the right to interpret this event to fit your agenda but you underestimate this KKY fellow at your own peril. This guy may surprise people like you just as Donald Trump did.
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This promises to be "the mother of all elections "
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Why do you KKY folks take offense at any observation made about your candidate? It is for this reason that I have coined the nickname DRA to refer to KKY supporters. DRA stands for DESPERATE, RUDE and ANGRY. KKY folks want to be heard anywhere they are. And they can be very aggressive. Take it easy guys. We all want a better Salone. But desperation will take us nowhere. Also, I am not underestimating any candidate in Salone's elections. But take this, brother, KKY WILL NOT win Salone's presidency. No matter how large that crowd was at the stadium, APC and SLPP can produce far larger crowds. They are the establishment parties. Mark my words, there are many that showed up for KKY that will vote either APC or SLPP. I have been around for a long time to know and understand Salone politics.
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Bra, I was not desperate, rude or angry at you. I wasn't even aggressive! I said you have the right to interpret the event to fit your agenda and not to underestimate KKY.
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Don’t have a crystal ball to ascertain which main party will lose more...though it is tempting to think it’ll be the APC due to flexibility of voters in the north and west. By Feb, I’d have a much better feel.
Let’s face it, KKY is not very strong right now....but has the potential to be, depending on a host of factors to numerous to mention....but include inter-alia: how the NGC campaign outreach progresses, SLPP and APC miscalculations, luck,
At the end of the day, it is doubtful KKY mat win any region other than that he Western Area...and he doesn’t need to win those to progress to a runoff. A strong performance in the cosmopolitan WA, with second place finishes in the APC north and SLPP southeast will make the election outcome interesting.
Nothing suprises me anymore.
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Specky, so I may be overly optimistic about KKY's chances to win but there is no question he faces a mountain high challenge. But at least you see it my way with your following response:
" Nothing suprises me anymore."
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National election results over the past few years in Francophone and anglophone west Africans nations have not been favorable to incumbents. Examples: Ghana, Nigeria, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Senegal, Cote D’Ivoire (Gbagbo)...and Liberia most likely will be added to the list.
This trend suggests to me that it is not easy rigging elections anymore if the opposition do their homework. Most African leaders stay in power for a long time because they rig elections and use state security resources to coerce the population. If they didn’t do that, few would win second term.
NGC has a charismatic energetic presidential candidate but they have not provided me any evidence yet that they have the organizational structure to execute a formidable ground game to make the runoff. It’s not an impossible task but they do not have too much time.
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Above response for KL
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Specky, in response to your last paragraph, there is probably a lot going on that you and I are not aware of. We get our information from online news and social media. True? False? But don't you think it takes a combination of social media, news and a ground game to fill that stadium up to or more than its capacity? But once again, it is too early to speculate and "
Nothing suprises me anymore."
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"But don't you think it takes a combination of social media, news and a ground game to fill that stadium up to or more than its capacity?" KL
KL, True. It took a combination of social media, news and a ground game to fill the stadium. But a supplemental question to ask is, how many of the folks in that stadium are real KKY supporters and how many of them will vote for him next year? My entire family (father, mother, brothers and sisters), for example. was in the stadium. But guess what? They will vote for Samura Kamara next year. We are a core APC family and are excited that Ernest Koroma is not running. Political rallies in Freetown draw folks from all parties. Folks want to have a good time. That's all. The APC Paddle parade drew folks that I know are SLPP members. The more the merrier my friend.
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There was not a single APC or SLPP supporter in the stadium yesterday. The stadium was filled with young folks who are yarning for positive change in the Country. Do not assume that both SLPP and APC still have monopoly over the minds of the people. As it currently stands, Over 70% of kambia district has gone to KKY and a huge number of chiefdoms in the port loko district have also gone to KKY and many more are leaning towards him. The only hurdle facing KKY is the south-east (Mende country) because an overwhelming number of Mende folks are not flexible and votes strictly based on party and tribe. Finally, Kandeh doesn't need a stronghold to win elections.
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"The only hurdle facing KKY is the south-east (Mende country) because an overwhelming number of Mende folks are not flexible and votes strictly based on party and tribe."-Ismail Yillah
Here you go again with your bias and or uninformed analysis. It is a fact that majority of the people both elder statesmen and women and youth who have embraced the NGC are Mendes. So where is your in unformed premises coming from. Many had hoped that after the APC selection in Makeni, many in the north would runaway from the APC. This has not happened. Day after day, the only people who are defecting to the NGC are former SLPP members most of whom are Mendes. I am a Mende. I am not registered to vote. But I will tell my Mende brothers and sisters that if we fail to support our own this time round, we would continue to look from the side line while northerners continue to make their back yard into middle class settlement while places like Kenema where a 1.2 Billion dollars mines has just been sold to investors would continue to deteriorate. Kenema city before the advent of war was a middle class city. Today it is competing with Pujehun and Bonthe as the three was developed cosmopolitan town in Sierra Leone. In 2005 when the PMDC was formed I was one who expended my money and energy to get the same crowd that you are showing us today in its last rally in Bo. Our leader foolishly took us to the slaughter house when it decided to support the APC. Thank God he lived to see the reward that the APC paid him in his own coins. This time call us tribalistic but we are not going to have three northern president ( Tejan Kabba, Ernest Bai Koroma and now Kandeh Yumkella) in a row in our country as if we south Easterners are not fit for purpose. We will eat your money at rally but trust us we are not stupid nor are our youths. Some of our failed politicians from the south east can go as they have done over and again but we will not be cowed. Mende are not flexible3 my foot. Look at a stupid Suso man insulting the entire people he has no idea about.
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"Look at a stupid Suso man insulting the entire people he has no idea about"...Bockarie Sannoh
Bra behave usef nor!! The Mende youth that you are bragging about voting for Bio are dirt poor and unemployed and they are not looking to elect a candidate that has not held a formal job in 21 years. This time round, Bockarie, Mende people are going to vote for a progress candidate in the name of Dr. Yumkella Yumkella. Moreover, Bio cannot win elections with just 70% of registered voters in the south-east and 15% of votes in the north-west.
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All I know is that my father spoke Suso fluently My lack of confidence about making any pronouncements is due to my having been away from Sierra Leone, for over 47 years now. Not that we can completely rely on the partisan media for their assessments of “the situation”, but , on the whole one has no choice other than to be willing to make concessions to the sometimes better judgment of those on the ground.Hopefully the Rev. Leeroy Wilfred Kabs-Kanu’s Cocorioko will ramp up his propaganda for the APC, to the same degree or even more than he did for the 2007 Elections which Ernest Bai one and after which we partied all night and kick started with this I am tempted to say, “once APC , always APC” except that I almost completely missed the Pa Shaki era ( but have heard a lot about him, mostly from the palm trees) and I know so little of the current flagbearer. ( In exactly the same way I suppose that the palmtree ever change their roots even though as Joseph Brodsky said , talking about roots , that he was not a tree… We hope for the best. May the best man win. In Alphabetical order, Bio, Kamara, Yumkella, who is the best man and in this case by what criteria do we determine who is best? Bio is certainly the best soldier , even if today we mostly hear the opposition say that he now mostly commands and army of thugs. Kamara has served as MInister of Foreign Affairs, like Kabbah, Yumkella has also flown in directly from New York with some UN merits in his portfolio, and as Levi Matandi tells us they have certain things in common. It’s doubtful that “ There was not a single APC or SLPP supporter in the stadium yesterday ” Can such a mixed crowd of tens of thousands of people (all tribes all ages and faces) be so clearly defined as being devoid of “a single APC or SLPP supporter”? That must be nothing less than wishful thinking. If I had been in Freetown yesterday I would have been there. As has been said in this and some other thread, Messers Bio and Kamara are also capable of filling that stadium to its maximum capacity and overflowing. Only imagining all this.Times may be hard but it surely hasn’t yet got to a rent-a-crowd stage The general excitement and enthusiasm about the main event is to be expected when it’s the much talked about new blood Brer Yumkella and his National Grand Coalition party in Freetown, the big city, like a football match (in the old days, a cup final between Blackpool and East End Lions at King Tom ) except that there is no gate fee to attend the Yumkella rally - and out of curiousity, everybody wants to be there so that they don’t miss something.The next day or some months or years later your friend Kemokai is going to ask, “Were you there, when history was being made?” That’s reason number one why almost everybody is going to attend the next rally too, the women, with or without the NGC ashobi ( The Ashobi also costs money).
There’s nothing superficial about such a massive turnout / show of support at the national stadium - the alternative could have been to boycott the event and that clearly has not happened. Not everyone who was at the stadium yesterday and will be eligible to vote in March will necessarily vote for the NGC on election day, even if “ There was not a single APC or SLPP supporter in the stadium yesterday ”. The only reservation about the NGC is that just as it takes time for a tree to grow so too it takes time for a New political party - even an offshoot of the older and long established Grand old SLPP and the once upon a time more radical APC, to grow roots, and here we must be talking about “ grassroots “ - how does NGC steal grassroot support from their rivals, the APC and the Palm Tree party? Please excuse my errors, I haven't read over the Italy -Sweden match has just started....
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"All I know is that my father spoke Suso fluently"..Corn What's the connection here? I'm sorry but I didn't get it.
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This time call us tribalistic but we are not going to have three northern president ( Tejan Kabba, Ernest Bai Koroma and now Kandeh Yumkella) in a row in our country as if we south Easterners are not fit for purpose. With a candidate like the one you just allowed to impose himself on you, SLPP will never put a mende man in a checken coop, let alone the state house.
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"This time call us tribalistic but we are not going to have
three northern president ( Tejan Kabba, Ernest Bai Koroma and now Kandeh Yumkella) in a row in our country as if we south Easterners are not fit for purpose."...Bokarie Sannoh You all sat there and allowed a short Sherbro (Mampa ) boy from Tihun to highjack your party and now you expect a South-Easterner in the statehouse. You must be day dreaming. You had decent and competent Southerners to nominate in the SLPP but you dumped them for the sake of the midget Brigadier.
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"There was not a single APC or SLPP supporter in the stadium yesterday. The stadium was filled with young folks who are yarning for positive change in the Country." Ismael Yillah
Ishmael, I am not going to be angry with you as was Bockarie Sannoh. But pray tell me if that statement of yours above is not a very stupid statement. Were you at that stadium to check the party affiliations of every single soul that was there? And you could not even believe APC Agba when he said that his APC family was at the stadium. Well, guess what, I personally know a lot of folks that were present at that rally that were either APC or SLPP. Besides, have you reflected on the fact that there were many in that stadium that were not even registered voters? "As it currently stands, Over 70% of kambia district has gone to KKY and a huge number of chiefdoms in the port loko district have also gone to KKY and many more are leaning towards him." Ishmael Yillah Another dumb statement. How do you know that? Have you conducted a scientific poll to determine that? "The only hurdle facing KKY is the south-east (Mende country) because an overwhelming number of Mende folks are not flexible and votes strictly based on party and tribe." Ishmael Yillah Why would you single out Mendes in your dumb tribalistic attack? Who does not vote on the basis of ethnicity in Salone? Are you not supporting Kandeh Yumkella because he is your tribesman? Why would it be okay for Ishmael Yillah to vote for a Susu man but not okay for a Mende man to vote for a Mende man? "Finally, Kandeh doesn't need a stronghold to win elections." Ishmael Yillah. I am really doubting your level of intelligence. Who in the world has ever won national elections without a stronghold? Wait until the campaign starts and your candidate will realize the necessity of a stronghold. I am from Bombali and we are going to ensure that our people do not vote for a Susu man. The Fula vote is going to be shared among the three candidates since Yumkella is half fula, APC has a Fula running mate and SLPP will also be having a Fula running mate in Alpha Timbo. Will Yumkella win the presidency with the Susu, Mandingo and Creole vote? All three ethnicities togeth
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Ishmael Yillah : Who was it that said, "Look at a stupid Suso man insulting the entire people he has no idea about" ? I don’t know about you, but as for me, I’m not a tribalist , so we don’t have to be stupid here, asking, “ What's the connection here?” In the context of this thread, this subject matter, identity politics etc, intelligence could include seeing obvious connections where they exist, and you don’t have to be sorry if you didn’t get it - at this rate there’s probably quite a lot that you didn’t get and will never get, not even when Levi Mutandi tells us that all three ( Bio, Kamara , Yumkella) , speak Mende. Suso is also a Sierra Leone language and I was just saying, not in passing but at the very beginning that my father spoke Suso, FLUENTLY., as fluently as I speak English. Now what’s your problem? I'm going back to the match - it's 0 - 0 . Please don’t ask what’s the connection ?
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Cornelius Hamelberg, Why are you salty? I just didn't understand how SouSou language relates to the post. There is no need to be grumpy, man.
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I'm sorry.Very sorry. Please accept my apologies for being so unnecessarily angry. It's another case of European Union tribalism and this time we can blame it all on the Italians. It was the stress of the moment, but our lads played 98 minutes glorious defence against Italy's wave after wave of attacks and glory glory,Sweden held them to a goalless draw on their home turf in Milan. So Sweden is going to the World Cup in Russia,Alhamdulilah!
I said many things and (the anxiety, uncertainty and stress - football) was inordinately irritated that it seemed that you only wanted to take up the relevance or irrelevance of my proudly proclaiming that my dad spoke Susan perfectly. Sorry, sorry sorry, it was my NASH doing overtime again.
I wish that Sierra Leone was also going to the world cup and of course if the sports ministry was giving more support to our talented footballers it would be another story...
By the way, where does Dr. Dennis Bright the former Minister of sport stand in the new party politics, do you have any idea? Paul Khamara of course is true blood - red APC man.
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Sorry again ! I meant Suso, not Susan
And I meant NAFS , not nash...
I'm pecking this message out with one finger on an Ipad...