BINTUMANI FORUM

After all, if every economic issue is framed as a struggle between a hard-working white middle class and undeserving minorities, then workers of all shades will be left fighting for scraps while the wealthy withdraw further into their private enclaves - Barack Obama

News Links:  Sierra Herald  Sierra Leone Telegraph Al Jazeera English: Live Stream Sorious Documentaries

  [Sierra Leone Websites] [Disclaimer][Contact Us]


Message Board
Calendar
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment   Page 1 of 2      1   2   Next
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #1 
Forumites, I would like all of you to put your brain storming thinking caps on and give us your predictions for the SLPP and APC primaries.

First of all we have to come up with lists of potential candidates for each party and I need a lot of help here.

So please list the candidates for each party and then we will come up with lists for each to make predictions from.

The lists had been posted in earlier threads. I will be tied up a lot today otherwise I'd have researched them.

Thanks
Teacher Lambert
Reply with quote  #2 
Specky,

There is no need to waste time on predictions for the SLPP.  Maada Bio has the nomination in his pocket.  It's either Maada Bio or bust.

Conversely, there is a competitive environment in the APC.  Below, I reproduce the list of APC flag bearer aspirants that was posted earlier in this forum:

1.  Dr. Kaifala Marah

2. John Bornoh Sisay

3. Dr. Sam Sesay

4. Alimamy P. Koroma

5. Hon. Ibrahim Bundu

6. Dr. Kalokoh

7. Joseph Fitzgerald Kamara

8. Victor Bockarie Foh

9. Amb. Alimamy Kamara

10. Minkailu Mansaray

11. Minkailu Bah

12. Alhaji Alpha Kanu

13. Amb. Osman Yansaneh

14. Balogun Logus Koroma

15. Winstanley Johnson

16. Zainab Bangura

17. Fmr. Hon. Mohamed Kakay

18. Alieu Pat Sowe

19. Kemoh Sesay

20. Mayor Bode Gibson

21. Diana Konomani
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #3 
Thanks Teacher Lambert.

I agree with you, as I am sure, most keen observers do as well, that Bio has the SLPP nomination in the bag. No one else had a serious chance to clinch it.

Someone had stated that some on the APC list have not declared or shown interest.

Who do you think will win the APC nomination? I think it will be John Sisay.
KL
Reply with quote  #4 
Within the APC, there is going to be infighting that will make that of the SLPP appears like child's play. At the end, Alhaji Alpha Kanu, the closest to de pa, will prevail. We will see quite a few opportunistic parties on the side. 

As for the SLPP, same ole' same ole'!  Bio is the man after the river runs red in green country. 
Teacher Lambert
Reply with quote  #5 
Spectator,

The APC contest will become a tug of a war between John Sisay and Joseph Fitzgerald Kamara, both relatives of Ernest Koroma.  My prediction is that John Sisay will win the APC nomination and face Maada Bio in the presidential elections.  Who wins the presidency is anyone's guess.

@ KL, Alpha Kanu is not the closest to the Pa.  John Sisay, Joseph Fitzgerald Kamara and Victor Foh are.
KL
Reply with quote  #6 
I stand to be corrected, thank you! Other than that, something tells me Alpha Kanu is armed with potential weapons to to close it out. That does not take away from his questionable past. 
Teacher Lambert
Reply with quote  #7 
KL,

You have a point.  But African politics being what it is makes outgoing heads of state  very concerned with who will succeed them.  

Amadu Ahidjo of Cameroon handed power to Paul Biya but had to flee the country as Biya turned on him and tried to get him locked up.  Also, reliable sources intimate that president Joseph Momoh cut off power and water supplies to Siaka Stevens' house in the waning days of the Pa's life.  The Pa Shaki died a dejected and despondent man.

Does Ernest Koroma trust Alpha Kanu?  I doubt it very much.  On the other hand, John Sisay and Joseph Fitzgerald Kamara are his blood, his cousins.  And reports state that the Pa has also established a close relationship with Maada Bio over the last three or more years just in case Bio develops a strategy to fuel any APC shenanigans and emerges president.  

The Pa wants to retire in Salone peacefully.  Therefore, the last thing he would want to think about is his successor trying to throw him into the dreadful Pademba Road prisons.  Remember, the Pa allowed Tejan Kabbah to retire in peace in Salone.
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #8 
So in the APC race, KL predicts Alpha Kanu, Teacher Lambert picks John Sisay or J. Fitzgerald Kamara, and my bet is on John Sisay.

For SLPP, Teacher Lambert and I bet on the Brigadier.

@Teacher Lambert: Can you please select one? If you are not sure, just toss a coin...heads for Sisay and tails for Kamara.

@KL: Who will win the SLPP nomination?

Any others?

@Sengbe, Rev Kabs, Sage et al: Who do you think will win the party nominations?
Teacher Lambert
Reply with quote  #9 
Spectator,

I will go with Joseph Fitzgerald Kamara.  Like John Bonor Sisay, Kamara is also a cousin of Ernest Koroma.  However, unlike Sisay, Kamara has been in APC and national politics for quite sometime and therefore may understand EBK's political kukujumuku better than Sisay.

EBK is looking for somehow who will protect him after the presidency.  Who better will do that than Joseph Kamara who may have gotten his wealth through EBK's plundering of the country's economy?
Sengbe
Reply with quote  #10 
"...@Sengbe, Rev Kabs, Sage et al: Who do you think will win the party nominations?... Spectator 007

Man, I do not really know. But since I am NOT going to run in 2018, I think Bio for SLPP?, and V.B. Foh for APC?

In that case I hope V.B. Foh wins, for personal selfish reasons.
Alpha Johnson
Reply with quote  #11 
"In that case I hope V.B. Foh wins, for personal selfish reasons." Sengbe

Just a clear reason why the SLPP is in turmoil today.  Sengbe Konouwah of Jimmi Bagbo, Bo district.  Born and raised SLPP .  Attended Bo School.  Wishing victory for APC over SLPP simply because his cousin, Victor Foh is APC.  Conclusion?  Sengbe is a sellout.  Lorda Mercy oo. 





DMK
Reply with quote  #12 

My predictions for who will win get the party nominations:

APC: John Sisay with Victor Foh as elected VP
SLPP: Bio with God alone knows who as VP

Musa Kenema
Reply with quote  #13 
My bet is on the following combos:

Alpha Kanu-Vic Foh

Zainab Bangura - Vic Foh

Vic Foh - Zainab Bangura

Sam Sumana - Zainab Bangura

Zainab Bangura - Sylvia Blyden


Vic Foh and Zainab Bangura will be very instrumental in balancing the equations in the APC come the flagbearer elections.
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #14 
Honorable MK,

Thanks for your input.

Now who do you think the flag bearer (standard bearer) will be? Who you think is best, is not what we are focused on. I want you to look into your crystal ball and make a very bold prediction for both parties.
Pastor Winifred
Reply with quote  #15 
Sam Sumana?  Where did that come from?  At this stage in his life, Victor Foh will not settle for a second spot again.
Salone Baby
Reply with quote  #16 
Kaifala Marah/Zainab Bangura. Unfortunately, Zainab is not liked by the APC hierarchy so she'll never get far on her own. However, she is Thaimneh and they believe they own APC and its their turn. There were Thaimnehs that were backing Alpha Kanu but as soon as JFK declared the majority jumped ship. The east and west voters determine who becomes president. Kaifala Marah is our next president. Lonta. By the way Zainab Bangura and Sylvia will never happen. Zainab has never forgiven Sylvia for things she wrote about her. Of course since the Haja went to the UN, Sylvia has changed her tune but Zainab nor dae forget. Zainab hates her and Afsata will not allow Sylvia to associate with Zainab. Afsata hates Zainab.
Salone Baby
Reply with quote  #17 
By the way Kaifala Marah and Zainab Bangura are the two people in that list that Ernest Koroma really trusts. The only two that will tell him the truth. They are also the two that are likely to continue what he believes is his great legacy
Sengbe
Reply with quote  #18 
@ Alpha Johnson:

"...Just a clear reason why the SLPP is in turmoil today..." A. J.

Not necessarily true!

  "...Sengbe Konouwah of Jimmi Bagbo, Bo district..."  A. J.

TRUE!

 "...Born and raised SLPP. Attended Bo School..."

TRUE!  

"...Wishing victory for APC over SLPP simply because his cousin, Victor Foh is APC..."

 Not necessarily true!

Do you not consider that as a very valid reason? For the sake of the development of my Chiefdom and District as a whole,  I believe that my selfish choice is as valid as it can be.

"...Conclusion?  Sengbe is a sellout..."

How can I be a sellout when I have resided in the USA longer than I have ever resided oberyanda, and cannot even vote for the SLPP standard-bearer from afar due to the exclusionary tactics used in that nation against Diasporans? Better the devil I know personally, than the angel I do not know personally. Especially since I know that good things will happen in Bagbo if VBF wins the presidency of Saro.

"...Lorda Mercy oo..." A. J.

Indeed! Lordamercy on your short-sightedness, Alpha Johnson. 

Imam Al Sankoh
Reply with quote  #19 
Sengbe,

I think Alpha Johnson's arguments are well-grounded.  I really do not see what Sengbe, Jimmi Bagbo and Bo School on the one hand have in common with the dirty politics of the APC.

By supporting his cousin who is APC, Sengbe the democrat is sending a message that party politics is bigger than country or at least Jimmi Bagbo is bigger than Saro.

 But is this not the same Sengbe who has been crying foul over the last two decades on Saro fora about the rate at which the APC has destroyed Saro?

So let's hypothesize that Sengbe's cousin becomes APC flag bearer and goes on to win the presidency.   It is conceivable that while wearing the red APC Kaftan, Sengbe will start rubbing shoulders with APC nation destroyers in the USA and in Saro.

 Is this the same Sengbe that once announced his desire to lead the SLPP to presidential polls in Saro?  OMG  the mighty have fallen!!!  Like John Leigh like Sengbe Konouwah.

Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #20 
@Imam Al Sankoh: EBK's mother in law's family were very staunch SLPP people. In 2002 when EBK first ran and AA Koroma was alive, they were in the SLPP family. Fast forward to 2012, many of them openly campaigned for their daughter Sia's husband. I asked one of them why. " Bo comot nar yar... pass go sidom. Nar we pikin ihm man geh for be president...enh we wan leh we pikin be forse lady".

The man is being honest and I won't be surprised if many in his shoes feel likewise..... but they would not admit it in public.
Iman Al Sankoh
Reply with quote  #21 
Spectator 007,

Arguments like yours help explain why countries like Sierra Leone will forever remain in the lower rungs of the development ladder - ' I will support my relative even if he or she is on the wrong side of history because family is bigger than country'.

I know EBK's in-laws very well, share the same district with them and I have very little regard for them as they are guilty by association.  

I will not support my wife if she were to run for public office under the APC banner.  The APC are nation destroyers, plain and simple.  How many more years will Sierra Leoneans endure a political system that is only adept on oppressing them and reducing them to the lowest vestiges of deprivation and penury?

Bra Specky, there is something called Regime Change in politics.
Imam Al Sankoh
Reply with quote  #22 
The posting above was from Imam Al Sankoh and not Iman Al Sankoh
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #23 
Agba Imam Al Sankoh,

I was just making an observation.

Should I get upset with him for expressing his views?

Please help me understand where you are coming from Agba Imam Al Sankoh
Imam Al Sankoh
Reply with quote  #24 
"I was just making an observation. "  Spectator 007

"Please help me understand where you are coming from Agba Imam Al Sankoh"  Spectator 007


Agba Specky,

Your observation was more or less a ringing endorsement of Sengbe's sickening arguments.  Here is a party that has turned Sierra Leone into a hell hole and because you guys are not living here, because you guys live only one hour away from heaven, you don't give a damn about how Sierra Leone is governed?

Those of us that live in Sierra Leone are the ones that are being burnt to ashes by this despicable red sun.  And there is a wish for Victor Foh to become president?  What a sick idea coming from an SLPP pikin? 
Spectator 007
Reply with quote  #25 
Agba Imam Al Sankoh,

I empathize with your position. If might have felt the same way if I were in your shoes.

I noticed you have not weighed in with your predictions. So who do you think will win the SLPP and APC nominations?
Musa Kenema
Reply with quote  #26 
Specky all we are doing here either speculating or forecasting. To be honest the APC ticket is not as predictable as the SLPP ticket. I am banking on a Zainab-Victor ticket because the tribe that make up the largest of the northern composition wants their own come 2018. It is no secret that the Temnes who have been taken for a ride since 1967 have now fully recovered and will vote for no other tribe except theirs. They have supported Sir Milton, a Mende; Shaki, another Mende; Momoh, Mende-Limba; Kabba, a Mende-Madingo and recently EBK, a Limba. The Temnes think it is now their time! We should not be surprised to see a Zainab-Victor combo or Alpha-Victor combo.

As for the SLPP it is Bio by all indications but the recent arm-twisting by KKY can yield some results that might turn the tables. if we go by the tribal divide, it will be the Mendes versus the rest and if that happens Bio will loose bigtime. From my observations KKY a genuine or born SLPP product will never play a second fiddle to Bio who is just a made and turncoat SLPP member. We should not be surprised to see a final decisive encounter on whose balance the flagbearership will tipped in what we usually dub as the ENDING BOUT in Starco terms.
Sengbe
Reply with quote  #27 
@ Imam Al Sankoh:

I am going to respond to your illogical political claims against me in a point-by-point manner, as follows:

"...I think Alpha Johnson's arguments are well-grounded..." I-AL-S

How so, in the logical sense?

"...I really do not see what Sengbe, Jimmi Bagbo and Bo School on the one hand have in common with the dirty politics of the APC..." I-Al-S

TRUE! I have nothing in common with the politics of the APC as a political party in Saro. But I have something in common with a person - a very prominent member of the APC. And that person is V.B. Foh.

"...By supporting his cousin who is APC, Sengbe the democrat is sending a message that party politics is bigger than country or at least Jimmi Bagbo is bigger than Saro..."

That is a very wrong interpretation of my worded statements in this discourse. But you are entitled to your opinion in this wrong interpretation.

 "...But is this not the same Sengbe who has been crying foul over the last two decades on Saro fora about the rate at which the APC has destroyed Saro?..."

YES! it is. But have I ever stated that I support the APC as a political party? Who dubbed the APC as the Akata Peoples Party over the years on Saro Fora? Sengbe!

"...So let's hypothesize that Sengbe's cousin becomes APC flag bearer and goes on to win the presidency..."

 Okay! let us do so. Who will vote for him to become the APC flagbearer in the first place, and ultimately the president of Saro? Is it gonna be Sengbe, as a diasporan, or you (ordinary)folks on the ground in Saro?  

"...It is conceivable that while wearing the red APC Kaftan, Sengbe will start rubbing shoulders with APC nation destroyers in the USA and in Saro..."

Illogical conception! Why? Because Sengbe will be in the USA as his adopted homeland, and NOT in Saro, his original homeland of birth. So you can keep your "red APC kaftan" with you in Kono. I will be wearing my green suit in America.

"...Is this the same Sengbe that once announced his desire to lead the SLPP to presidential polls in Saro?..."


Yes, it is. But is it conceivable that my wish will bear fruits? Norto unu kin say monkey nor for eat if babu woke?  

"...
OMG the mighty have fallen!!!..."

 How so? Because I indicated my preference for someone in the APC that will most likely help to develop my Chiefdom and District, and thereby improve the lives of my people while I am living abroad, rather than someone in my SLPP who is NOT even going to win the presidency by all rational indications? I like that option better in pragmatic terms than the loser attitude you are expounding on here.

"... Like John Leigh like Sengbe Konouwah..."

HECK NO!!! Na sometin make monkey cham peppeh. Based on the situation and conditions expounded on by Sengbe, it wiser to be more pragmatic than continuing to pursue the same failed yearnings in the past and expect a successful result in the near future.

Politricks may be grounded in concrete for you, but Sengbe's politics is not. Rational flexibility is the game I play in my politics.

"...Politics makes strange bedfellows..."

REALLY?
Musa Kenema
Reply with quote  #28 
How so? Because I indicated my preference for someone in the APC that will most likely help to develop my Chiefdom and District, and thereby improve the lives of my people while I am living abroad, rather than someone in my SLPP who is NOT even going to win the presidency by all rational indications? I like that option better in pragmatic terms than the loser attitude you are expounding on here.

This is a veiled endorsement of the APC by Sengbe. The man is trying to be realistic here. He already knows the SLPP will not win any free and fair election in Salone too soon. He also knows even if the SLPP wins that will not be translated into any benefit for his chiefdom or region. He has seen the stark difference between the APC and SLPP in terms of development. He has seen the improvement of the lives of his people under the current APC government and has compared it with that of the past nation-wrecking and money-grubbing SLPP. And now he has decided to come out of his tribal closet to tell it as it is, to call a spade a spade! Kudos Sengbe, I doff my heart to you!
Fullah Town
Reply with quote  #29 
"Shaki, another Mende; Momoh, Mende-Limba;"  Musa Kenema


Musa Kenema,

It is well known that you hate Mendes.  But do have to wish two despicable Northerners, Siaka Stevens and Joseph Momoh on them (Mendes) to prove your point?

Your dream of a full-blooded Themne becoming head of state will forever remain a dream.  The Limbas are too smart for folks like you.   If an APC man is going to become president, it is going to be either John Sisay or Joseph Kamara.

The Limbas know how to manipulate Themnes and the APC.  They regard Themnes as followers and not leaders.  Themnes just cannot lead. 
  
Musa Kenema
Reply with quote  #30 

Image may contain: 1 person, text
THE CAMPAIGN HAS UNOFFICIALLY BEGUN! SHE IS COMING! THE FIRST MADAM PRESIDENT OF SALONE!!

Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply