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Indeed, the other secretary was Mrs.Beckley...She was the fair complexioned one. And yes, Alhaji Rashid, that dangerous and smooth striker.
Zintabah, believe it or not, I was in Five Science too and our Form Master then was a Mr. Bah who was also our chemistry teacher. The 5 Sc class was located next to the Science Lab. Now I am bursting my old brain trying to remember some of my classmates then...Pimpi Jalloh, Fatu Fofanah, Henrietta Fullah, Jina Massaquoi, Hawa Tucker, Abdul Njai, Lamin Nying, Mohamed Mansaray, Anaza Sesay, Iye Fornah, Kawusu Kebbay, ...the Bangura twins boys were close friends of mine but they were in the Art stream..... Those were good days then.. apart from sports, AMSS was also producing WAEC results at the topmost levels
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Just because the Ahmadiya new glory was brimming with "Paper Leak" scandals, I'll make merry with the honorable reputation of "past glories"
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DMK, seriously are you a greengo? You are too reasonable a man to be a greengo. Greengos are not reasonable. A greengo will tell you all about his education and his PhD but will never tell you about his accomplishments in life. Ar hole u bomb, bra. Lol!
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"A greengo will tell you all about his education and his PhD but will never tell you about his accomplishments in life." KL KL, Is a Ph.D not an accomplishment? Bra, your diarrhea mouth is stinking the forum. My appeal to you is to start thinking like an adult. I know that is difficult given your limited intellectual capacity but I believe that if you try hard you will succeed.
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Paper leak and Teacher Randolph oona kakarass dem. Oona komot behen Ahmadiyya.Den oona alaki en immoral school den dae way jamba smoking, gambling en teacher beating bin dae reign supreme..
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That is because not everybody is as insecure as you are. All your private life is out here on a public forum for all to read. Let's put it this way, a person with a Ph.D, and also with extensive work in a classroom is a great accomplisher. He doesn't need to come to a public forum to trumpet what he/she is doing or has done. In case you didn't know due to your low level of intelligence, Ph.D holders working in the classroom are usually consulted to do a lot of work outside the classroom. You shouldn't have gone to Ahmadiyya. You should have gone to Grammar School, my alma mater.
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There you go again! " You shouldn't have gone to Ahmadiyya. ." You should have gone to Grammar School, my alma mater What then is insecurity? Why are you making a dumbo greengo out of yourself, bro? Who are you trying to impress with Grammar School? Who really cares about which school you attended? Bo me man leff dis kalokalo! By the way, all PhD holders are not the same so stop make reckless generalizations. Greengo PhD holders are a special breed. Talking about my private life in public? Do you really understand the meaning of "private"? Show me where on Bintumani my private life has been exposed. Do you want me to direct you where greengo private life is being exposed beyond Bintumani? Try Facebook and you will be sorry to be a greengo.
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I bet you are going to come back and make a big deal about this, right?
" By the way, all PhD holders are not the same so stop make reckless generalizations."
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Sure, all Ph.D holders are not the same. But identify one that is begging for crumbs at King Loggy's table. I will not go into the business of defining words with you as I consider you an unintelligent man. But how many times have you not bragged about how glowing your private life is on this forum? If that is not a measure of insecurity coming from a man that is clamoring for recognition, then what is? You see, you screwed yourself up by going to Ahmadiyya. Like me, you should have gone to Grammar School, Fourah Bay College and Georgetown University. Dummy, you!!!
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But how many times have you not bragged about how glowing your private life is on this forum?" ( Teacher Randolph) Teacher Randolph, to brag is to say something in a boastful manner and it gets worse with greengos attempting to demoralize others in other to make good on themselves. I do not wake up in the morning, come to Bintumani with a wish to correct grammatical mistakes of others and make comparisons between my alma mater and theirs. Mine is purely defensive! You brag about your PhD in response to my grammatical mistakes, I counter punch with my accomplishments. The following is bragging in it's literal definition: " You shouldn't have gone to Ahmadiyya. ." ( You should have gone to Grammar School, my alma mater Teacher Randolph) If that is not a measure of insecurity coming from a man that is clamoring for recognition, then what is? ================================================= " You see, you screwed yourself up by going to Ahmadiyya. Like me, you should have gone to Grammar School, Fourah Bay College and Georgetown University. Dummy, you!!!" Greengo na sickness! KL, Sure, all Ph.D holders are not the same. But identify one that is begging for crumbs at King Loggy's table. I will not go into the business of defining words with you as I consider you an unintelligent man. But how many times have you not bragged about how glowing your private life is on this forum? If that is not a measure of insecurity coming from a man that is clamoring for recognition, then what is? You see, you screwed yourself up by going to Ahmadiyya. Like me, you should have gone to Grammar School, Fourah Bay College and Georgetown University. Dummy, you!!!
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"Teacher Randolph , to brag is to say something in a boastful manner and it gets worse with greengos attempting to demoralize others in other to make good on themselves." KL As usual, he tries to punch above his weight by challenging folks that are far more intelligent than him. But in doing so, he makes silly grammatical mistakes that erode the quality of the debate. Oh this APC hack!!!
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I REST MY CASE!
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Princpal Sandi ee look lek say nar oona begin di disgraceful sub culture of Fakitoes nar Sa Lone educational system eh?
I assume that substandard tradition began with some of you securing Fake O and A levels at certain schools which you used to enter overseas institutions. It is a fact that because most of you were below average students in the first place, you performed poorly in college and returned home with fake accreditation to enter politics and continue the systematic destruction of Mama Sa Lone with your benighted selves So BTW "Cabbies and Security Guards and other Fakitoes of high or low station" trolling cyberdom with incessant huffings and puffings about "superior education" ..what have you done with your "sabi book" to better your people in Sierra Leone?? Same O same O k@k@ nar river wash oona k@k@ras wit oona bare hands en wait for white man NGO to build toilets for the people in your towns and villages or else driving "Uber" for a living in the free world sending Euros. Pounds and Dollars home while pretending to be ahead of the game! Oona sorry!!
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Teacher Randolph and APC Grammar do you think paper weights like you can match KL? You will be making bufoons out of syour orry selves if you think the answer to that question is Y-E-S. KL is not supposed to degrade himself by sparring with small time OKOBO guys like you. The man has a lot of achievements to his credit while you are still crawling like infants. KL has a beautiful Mende wife who dumped all her foolish,maleficent and munku Mende suitors for the celebrated lover boy and yenkee boy KL.He has very cute and nice kids who have completed their unis while you two are still to have your first kids. the man took his degrees from US unis while you two are still boasting of your old-fashioned FBC qualifications which are no longer recognised in foreign unis. Guys please put your tails between your legs and scram.
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Poof!!! An all out assault on the English Language!!! "Teacher Randolph and APC Grammar do you think paper weights like you can match KL? You will be making bufoons out of syour orry selves if you think the answer to that question is Y-E-S. KL is not supposed to degrade himself by sparring with small time OKOBO guys like you." GG
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When Mende fakai greengories like APC Grammar makes uneducated statements like silly grammatical mistakes erodes the quality of the debate, you wonder where and how these "kruts" were educated. Whatever happened to substance?
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Everify this is no joking matter you are becoming a case for the psychiatrists.Can you explain how guys with fake GCE certs. turn out to be formidable present-day academics with PhDs, Post Docs. and MScs or MAs from renowned western universities? Going by your assertion, it means AMSS is not that mediocre as alaki Prince Of Waleans used to think. Can you imagine achieving a PhD or MSc with fake school results? What would have happened had these guys taken their GCE certs.? It means AMSS has been producing superstars! Right now you have KL in the US who is one of the most profficient in his profession which is also his occupation; Sheikh Umarr another formidable English professor in the US and the list goes on. Oh I forgot to mention MK who wants to emulate Jesus and Muhammad by refraining from haughtiness.
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Originally Posted by
Pa Cole My friend, you are not making a sense at all. When you talk about prominent high schools in Sierra Leone, mentioning the name Ahmadiyya is laughable. Ahmadiyya has never been in the same tier as Prince of Wales, Saint Edwards, C.K.C , Grammar School, Annie Walsh, Bo School, Albert Academy, Saint Joseph's Convent and Methodist Boys High School. These are the cream of secondary school education in Salone. Not true at all. In those days Ahmadiyya was top especially when Okama and MP Bayoh were heading the school management. It was renowned for discipline and good results. How can you all forget?
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I don't think anybody will deny the fact that Ahmadiyya was a good school. But I agree with Pa Cole that it has never been a tier 1 secondary school in Sierra Leone. I entered high school in the 1970s and noticed that there were Muslim kids that fought to attend St. Edwards, a Roman Catholic school, Grammar School, Prince of Wales and Albert Academy instead of Ahmadiyya, where they could have had a fertile ground for learning more about their faith and practicing their religion. CKC in Bo, where my cousin was schooled, received a similar attention from Muslim parents even though there was an Ahmadiyya in Bo. Why was this the case?
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Bambara if you had attended Ahmadiyya you would have noticed that there were Christians who attended the school too. I can still remember boys from POW, AA and Grammar school having problems with Sunday school. Any time they were questioned they will tell the teacher their absence was due to compulsory family church services. There were also dropouts from Bo School, POW, Edwards, CKC and Koyeima who introduced the exams cheating culture.They had to be admitted under tremendous pressure from either the board of governors or politicians. They used to have cheating materials called READY-MADE which were papers containing definitions and diagrams carefully prepared in anticipation of their featuring in a particular question paper. But the invigilators were very smart in those days to catch them and expel them. Most of them changed their rotten ways and turned out to be very good students who had good grades in the GCE. In fact Ahmadiyya earned its reputation as one of the best schools from such reforming or refining or recycling of horrible students from the above-mentioned schools. From discipline to academic capabilities, from cheating to hardwork, from jamba smoking to jamba detesting Ahmadiyya did it all!
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"Bambara if you had attended Ahmadiyya you would have noticed that there were Christians who attended the school too. I can still remember boys from POW, AA and Grammar school having problems with Sunday school." Principal Sandy Principal Sandy, The Christian students that chose Ahmadiyya over the more prominent schools in Sierra Leone were not competitive. Under normal circumstances, a Christian student cannot choose to go to a school that held classes on Sundays. " There were also dropouts from Bo School, POW, Edwards, CKC and Koyeima who introduced the exams cheating culture.They had to be admitted under tremendous pressure from either the board of governors or politicians." Principal Sandy Principal Sandy, You have just made my argument for me - that Ahmadiyya attracted dropouts from tier 1 schools. I went to St Edwards and during my time it was one strike and you are out. If you cannot survive the rigors of academic life at Edwards, then Ahmadiyya will be the best place for you. BTW Koyeima was never considered a good school. Folks at Koyeima, a government school, aspired to the prestigious Bo School, another government school.
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Bambara the reason for which it is erroneous to compare Ahmadiyya to those christian schools is that the former is a genuine educational institution. We all know education is all about teaching and learning and learning can only take place when an individual or group changes its behavior. For proper learning to take place the change in behavior must be permanent. Teaching is about helping others to learn. Those students could have belonged to the dregs of society had it not been for the generousity and determination of the Ahmadiyya school to help our society out. In Ahmadiyya they were only taught good things and in consequence learned good things as compared to those from the then notorious christian schools where every bad thing used to happen unchecked. The students used to tell us a lot about their horrible experiences in these christian schools. As for them being in these schools was just like putting on a reputed designer's jacket as most of these schools were basking in past glories. It was all hype and no substance! Most of the drop-outs or rejects from those schools were admitted not because Ahmadiyya lacked students but out of sympathy driven by islamic teachings of which equality is one. To be explicit everyone had the right to study in Ahmadiyya school provided that person adhered to the then stringent rules which were applicable as long as you are in the school's uniform irrespective of being on-campus or otherwise. From my experience most of the students in question had the most rotten ways irrespective of the sex. There used to be girls and boys expelled from schools that ran boarding homes and you can guess what used to happen in such places and they were one of the reasons Ahmadiyya was nick-named last station. If you attended Ahmadiyya and you fail to reform that was the end of you because there was no school then with such facilities. Students were not only reformed morally but also acdemically. That was the reason most parents wanted their kids to attend Ahmadiyya. Way back it was very easy to discern between a student and non-student of Ahmadiyya. Like my case my parents never wanted me to attend any other school except Ahmadiyya and they ensured that I made the choice during the selective entrance examination in which there was only one choice and one chance. To be honest I am glad that I did! "If you cannot survive the rigors of academic life at Edwards, then Ahmadiyya will be the best place for you". This is the most ridiculous grandstanding statement I have ever read! While you guys in those schools were busy studying science in its lumped form of general science, in Ahmadiyya people were studying physics, chemistry and biology as separate courses from year one followed with laboratory work. Maybe you were misinformed about the goings-on in Ahmadiyya school. That was where a student repeats if he or she fails three subjects in a final yearly assessment. Students were evaluated based on their performances in class tests, mid term examinations and terminal examinations. If you have been under-performing in the mid term and terminal exams even if you score 100s in all subjects in the third term examinations you will still repeat! Tell me which context is more rigorous!
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What Principal Sandy is trying to do here is to underscore the importance of contextual value in Educational attainments. Having an intake of students from very privileged backgrounds and teach them to get as many Division ones in the old GCE O Levels is one thing. Taking another group of students from the most vulnerable and disadvantaged backgrounds, as obtained in the East End of Freetown, and nurturing them to leave school with clutches of Division twos is a different ball game altogether.
It is no secret that some of the schools mentioned in this thread are stuffed with children from the most privileged backgrounds in Sierra Leone with access to infinite educational resources, tutoring at home or by private tutors. The possibility of some of them having pre-knowledge of examination papers was and is still an issue. Those progressive countries who believe strongly in the value-added nature of educational attainment are now using different performance metrics to draw up league tables of schools and institutions. Such a measure could see Ahmaddiya Freetown topping POW, Grammar School or Bo School https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/583857/Progress_8_school_performance_measure_Jan_17.pdf There are Universities in the UK who are prepared to offer admission to students from disadvantaged backgrounds or schools who do not meet their normal admission criteria. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/12/15/bristol-university-offer-lower-grades-disadvantaged-teenagers/ Another policy tool some countries are using is devising a funding formula for schools that takes into consideration the socio-economic background of the area the school is located. Providing free school meals for such students and a so-called pupil premium are other equalisers being used to recognise the contextual value in educational attainment.
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University lowers entry grades for disadvantaged Image caption The university wants to force the pace on widening access
A leading university is to increase its intake of disadvantaged students by offering places with reduced grades.
The University of Bristol is to accept lower exam grades from disadvantaged local pupils and applicants from schools with poor A-level results.
Vice-chancellor Hugh Brady said this would be a "step change" in admissions.
The project is launched as admissions service figures show young people from poorer families are much less likely to apply to university.
The Bristol project, to be launched by Education Secretary Justine Greening, is an attempt by the university to drive social mobility and attract a wider range of students.
'Potential' not exam grades
The university, which gets eight applications for every place, will make offers two grades lower than the standard offer for applicants who have been at schools in the lowest-achieving 40% for A-level results.
For every local school, there will be five places for disadvantaged pupils, based on head teachers' assessments of "potential" rather than exam grades.
The university says it wants a more diverse intake of students - as Ucas figures show that youngsters from wealthy backgrounds are almost four times more likely to apply to university than their poorer counterparts.
Despite campaigns to widen access to university, the Ucas figures show that groups such as working class white boys are still far behind in university entry rates.
Many universities, including Bristol, take into account whether students have had to overcome barriers in their education.
But the pilot schemes in Bristol will see some places directly awarded on the basis of the background of applicants.
It will encourage applications from disadvantaged students such as those who have been in care, eligible for free school meals or those who will be the first in their family to go to university.
The Bristol Scholars project will be launched at St Bede's Catholic College in Bristol.
A student at the college, Marbel Chawatama, will take up a place in Bristol this autumn, as part of a pilot year for the scholarship scheme.
"I know a lot of people want to go to the University of Bristol but don't get the opportunity. I felt really blessed," said the 18 year old, who will begin a law degree.
Image caption Bristol gets eight applications per place - but now wants more poorer students to apply
Prof Brady said: "We want to recruit the most able students, regardless of their background.
"These are bold measures designed to address a problem that is seen across the education sector," said Prof Brady.
The university has spent £18m trying to recruit students from poorer backgrounds - and he says this more direct approach will represent a "step change".
"We're confident that, in time, we will achieve a more diverse student community at the University of Bristol; this will be a change which will benefit everyone, and something we hope other universities will consider replicating."
The Mayor of Bristol, Marvin Rees, backed the project as helping to create a "fairer city".
"We must reach a place where opportunities in life are not defined by your background or economic circumstances."
Les Ebdon, director of Fair Access to Higher Education, backed such "innovative" approaches to recruitment.
"But there is still a long way to go before everyone who has the potential to go to university has equal chance to do so," said Prof Ebdon.
"I would like to see more universities thinking creatively about how they support talented young people."
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Contextual Value I am sorry your contextualization is wrong! Your veiled claim that Ahmadiyya school was for the poor or under-privileged or down-trodden and that the reverse was true for the christian schools is fallacious. I had a lot of friends who came from poor or low class families but still attended christian schools and those from rich families who attended Ahmadiyya. Moreover, lot of Ahmadiyya students were getting distinctions in the GCE too which indicated that a performance has no correlation with class or background or financial strength especially in Salone. And for your information a lot of students were coming from the west to study in Ahmadiyya too- it used to be a fifty-fifty population mix. By the way what were the KPIs needed for a higher school rankings in those days?
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Principal sandy, I am not sure which timeframe we are talking about. If it is in the 80s and 90s , Ahmadiya Freetown, was never regularly in the first ten of top-performing schools. That in itself, in my opinion, is not a bad thing as the league tables themselves were inherently flawed.
I had friends and families who graced that institution either because of reasons of proximity or religious affiliation. There were some Ahmadiya students from rich backgrounds but most of the students were local and we all know how Eastern is.
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"It is no secret that some of the schools mentioned in this thread are stuffed with children from the most privileged backgrounds in Sierra Leone with access to infinite educational resources, tutoring at home or by private tutors. The possibility of some of them having pre-knowledge of examination papers was and is still an issue." Contextual Value. The above statement tells how ignorant its writer is about educational dynamics in Sierra Leone. It is also an insult to the hard working students from humble backgrounds who have to study hard at schools like Prince of Wales, St. Edwards, CKC, Bo School, Albert Academy, Grammar School, in order to succeed.
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No, i am not ignorant of that at all. I might have been in that bracket. The lucky few, so to speak. Majority though are from very privileged backgrounds. Period!
The problem with Sierra Leoneans is our penchant for denial. We can't just own up to the facts and strain every sinew of our being to put things right.
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"Majority though are from very privileged backgrounds." Contextual Value What do you refer to as a privileged background in Sierra Leone? You mean a country of mass poverty, with one of the highest rates of unemployment in the world can all of a sudden produce an entrenched privileged class whose children are capable of filling the ranks of Prince of Wales, St. Edwards, Grammar School, CKC, Bo School, Albert Academy, Annie Walsh and St. Joseph's Convent? Bo go sidom saful with u ignorance. Something must be wrong with you.