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KK
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Kini Blaima
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This dunderhead is a core tribalist whose hate against Mendes is worse than Musa Kenema.
Finda
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Kini Blaima, I hope you are just trying to be sarcastic. Steady Bongo is a Mende. Most Mendes have Mandingo names indicating a Mandingo origin. However, most are third or fourth filial generation. 

Steady Bongo and his family have their grudge against the SLPP. His senior brother Dr. Lansana Nyalla (from the same mum) was leader of a once powerful Sierra Leonean organization in the USA-TEGLOMA. He was very instrumental in getting Tegloma to support the Tejan led SLPP. The SLPP was very ungrateful to him and members of his organization. Despite all the names forwarded to Tejan Kabba for appointment and position, Kabba never considered them. The APC when it came to power was very grateful to their diaspora support especially from the USA. Do you see how a man who has Liberian and American citizenship and who has not travel to Sierra Leoen since he 1994 was made Diplomat in the USA. I am talking about Kabba Kanu. 

My advised to most of the musicians is that they have to learn from their mistakes in the 2007 elections. The likes of Emmerson, Daddy Saj and others who openly threw their supports for then touted world best, found out at their own peril that they made their greatest blunders of their life by campaigning for a tribalist and corrupt leader -Ade Buy All.

I hope common sense would teach them this time round.
Fair mancan we just learn
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Steady Bongo is a Mende. Most Mendes have Mandingo names indicating a Mandingo origin."

Very interesting! Reminds me of how the North has become politically ethnic than tribal.
 Can we just accept ourselves as Sierra Leoneans and stay away from tribalism?


Kekeh Guana
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Finda, Steady Bongo is a trueblue Madingo who like Tejan Kabba and Bio, has been using the docile and dull Mendes to attain stardom or political power.
Fair Man
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Kekeh Guana what do you mean by "trueblue Madingo"?
Kekeh Guana
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Steady Bongo's parents were Madingoes who used the Mende identity to be acceptable and to stay comfortably in the southeast.
Spectator 007
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“ Most Mendes have Mandingo names indicating a Mandingo origin. ” - Finda

Is this the case all over the south-east (excluding Kono)? I would have thought in certain regions in Kailahun and Kenema there is a plurality of such names.
Nonsense
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“ Most Mendes have Mandingo names indicating a Mandingo origin. ” - Finda 


Nonsense.  Most Mendes have Mende names.  Mendes and Mandingoes come from the same ethno-linguistic family - Mande.  It is therefore not surprising that they would share some last names.
Kekeh Guana
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This is outrageous! The Sherbros and the Madingos have been using the Mendes fiti-fata be it in politics or social circles without showing any respect. These two tribes have trampled on the heads of the dull and gullible Mendes vomitting and pissing on them like toilets. From Milton Margai to Tejan Kabba to Maada Bio; from Salia Koroma to Steady Bongo the Mendes have been brutally exploited by two tribes full of smart alecs. When will the Mendes wake up? According to the late Bob Marley: YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE SOMETIME, BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. But in the case of the Mendes they are being fooled by the Madingos and Sherbros all the time. Sengbe and Bra Enviable should be brooding over this conundrum rather than wasting time on the suave and over-smart Temnes.

Steady Bongo has clearly demonstrated that the Mendes are a vehicle to fame which can be dumped at will.
Dull Gbose Gbose Boy
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Musa Kenema,

You need some education in history.  Get this into your thick Gbose Gbose Themne skull:


1. Sir Milton and Sir Albert Margai were born and raised in Gbagbatoke, Moyamba District in the heart of Mende land.   They spoke only two Sierra Leonean languages - Mende and Krio.   Sir Milton and Sir Albert later moved to Bonthe with their father who was a businessman.  But many other Margais stayed in Gbagbatoke.  There are tomb stones in Gbagbatoke town in memory of Sir Milton and Sir Albert. 

In Bonthe, Sir Milton became a member of the Methodist Church and attended a Methodist School.  Later, he came to Freetown where attended the Albert Academy.  On the other hand, Sir Albert joined  the Catholic church and later came to Freetown to attend the Saint Edwards Secondary School. 

When Charles Margai, Sir Albert's son,  ran for Parliament in the days of Siaka Stevens, he always ran in Moyamba District and not in Bonthe.

2.  Julius Maada Bio was born and raised in TIHUN, Bonthe district.  His father was paramount chief Charlie Bio.  He is a blood relative of Ngoh Bio, the famous former coach of the Leone Stars.  The name TIHUN is a Mende name meaning a place for the production of tea.  And the name Maada is a Mende name meaning grandfather. 

The Bios, many of whom can be found in Bo have no Sherbro lineage and that notwithstanding, the largest ethnic group in Bonthe Sherbro is the Mendes.  In fact not only is Mende the prominent language spoken in Bonthe and Mattru, the two largest towns in Bonthe district but it is even very difficult to hear sherbro being spoken in these towns.  I lived in Bonthe for years attending the Bonthe Secondary School.  My late father was Sherbro and my mother Mende.  Like me, both were born and raised in Bonthe.  But they spoke only Mende.

3.  Bra don't try to revise history in a bid to get back at those who have complained about Limba domination in the APC.  This is no secret.  It is a historical fact that Themnes have always been used as a weapon of violence while Limbas and to some extent Lokos enjoy the sweets of office when APC is in power.  You should be fighting for equality in the APC and not trying to revise history to suit your narrow selfish interests.   Be smart like other folks in Port Loko and campaign for Julius Maada Bio.   Mendes and the SLPP will give Themnes opportunities in Sierra Leone that the APC will never give them.   When Tejan Kabba and Solomon Berewa  were in power, Themnes enjoyed privileges that they were deprived of when the Limba and Lokos took over in 2007. 


Ishmael Yillah
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If elected (may God forbid), Samura Kamara will be the very first president from the ethnic group. I know some of our brothers in the Green palm tree wants him to be Limba but the facts still remains that the 'dull boy' is themne.
It Seems
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"If elected (may God forbid), Samura Kamara will be the very first president from the ethnic group. I know some of our brothers in the Green palm tree wants him to be Limba but the facts still remains that the 'dull boy' is themne."-Ismael Yilla


Ismael Yilla, I do not know where you are coming from because I do not see anywhere in this thread where Dr. Samura Kamara and his Themniness or not has been mentioned. So why are you interjecting something into the discussion just to throw the discussion in the direction that you feel more comfortable with?

If you want I can dig out for you from the archives where you once vouched that President Koroma was the first Themne President. You guys are so pathetic that you easily forget whet you have said before. Myopic!


Curious
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"I lived in Bonthe for years attending the Bonthe Secondary School. My late father was Sherbro and my mother Mende. Like me, both were born and raised in Bonthe. But they spoke only Mende. (Dull Gbose Gbose Boy)

So are you Mende or Sherbro?
Dull Gbose Gbose Boy
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Curious,

In Sierra Leone, ethnicity is established along patrilineal lines.  In other words, you are what your father is/was.  That makes me Sherbro.  However, I don't consider myself Sherbro.  I don't speak the language and I don't understand the culture.  Therefore, I consider myself Mende.  That is the language and culture that I grew up in.
Ishmael Yillah
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"If you want I can dig out for you from the archives where you once vouched that President Koroma was the first Themne President. You guys are so pathetic that you easily forget whet you have said before. Myopic!"   It seems

It Seems you are confused because I only mentioned Samura's name because people like you are obsessed with his ethnicity. You are obsessed with Themne people and feeds on Mende-Themne tribal divide.
Curious
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"However, I don't consider myself Sherbro. I don't speak the language and I don't understand the culture. Therefore, I consider myself Mende. That is the language and culture that I grew up in."

Congratulations! With forumites like you there is hope for Bintumani and our country. Have you heard EBK and Samura speak Temne? Any idea where they grew up and their genealogical background?
Curious
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Oh by the way aren't you conflating ethnicity to for tribe?
Dull Gbose Gbose Boy
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I don't give a damn about the language or languages that Ernest Koroma and Samura Kamara speak.  They can speak Lebanese if they want.  It is their damn business.

Now, tell me the difference between ethnicity and tribe in the context of Africa.
Cornelius Hamelberg
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The Great Steady Bongo ! 
Spectator 007
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I never knew Steady Bongo and Lansana were brothers. I must admit, they do resemble one another.
Curious
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Dull Gbose Gbose Boy, I was impressed with your demeanor and responses until now. Calm down and let us don't turn this into gbose gbose. If you are ready to debate with me without gbose gbose, let me know and I will answer your question.
Dull Gbose Gbose Boy
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"Calm down and let us don't turn this into gbose gbose"  Curious


Curious,

I am as calm as the word itself and I am ready to debate.  Let's go.
Curious
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"Now, tell me the difference between ethnicity and tribe in the context of Africa."

The Temnes, Limbas, Lokos, and Fullahs in the North, especially in Bombali District, shared a common cultural tradition that is mostly Themne. This makes them an ethnic group. So ethnicity is different from tribe.

Modern Creole is mostly ethnic because there are people of Sherbro, Mende, Temne, Limbas, Christians, Muslims and Nigerian origins that are Creols.
Cornelius Hamelberg
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"Modern Creole is mostly ethnic because there are people of Sherbro, Mende, Temne, Limbas, Christians, Muslims and Nigerian origins that are Creols."

And Americans, what are they ? Please explain 
Dull Gbose Gbose Boy
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"The Temnes, Limbas, Lokos, and Fullahs in the North, especially in Bombali District, shared a common cultural tradition that is mostly Themne. This makes them an ethnic group. So ethnicity is different from tribe."  Curios

Curious,

I beg to differ.  Ethnicity and tribe carry the same meaning.  They refer to a group of people sharing a common culture and dialect.

Your reference to Themnes, Limbas, and Fulas in the North sharing a common cultural tradition is wrong.  There is a distinct difference between Themnes and Limbas, Themnes and Fuilas and Limbas and Fulas.  The social behaviors of these folks are different and they have distinct languages that can create distinct barriers as far as identity is concerned.  Your ability to speak another man's language does not mean that you share the same ethnicity.  

English is the official language of Sierra Leoneans.  That does not make Sierra Leoneans English men or Americans.

I am tired of this portrayal of Sierra Leone's North as a homogeneous community.  It is not .  The North is heterogeneous with distinct ethnic and cultural identities.  In fact historically, this distinct ethnic and cultural identity have served as fodder to violent confrontations in the North.  The Marampa mines conflict/massacre is a good example.
Curious
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Do yourself a favor by doing some research and you will find out that tribe and etnucity are very distinct.
Spectator 007
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What are some synonyms for tribe?
Spectator 007
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Leaving dectuinarty definition of ethnicity and tribe aside, how come the term tribe is used to describe Africans and Native American Indians who share same culture and speak the same language etc. but not for folks in developed countries who share same culture and speak the same language. Terms/phrases like ethnic group belong to same ethnicity are used to share the latter.

Amadu Mannah
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Specky, Steady Bongo and Dr. Lansana Nyallay are brothers from the same Mum-the late Haja Watta.


I had known Steady Bongo since school days when he and others like Mohamed Kefala used to commute from Bombo a village behind the Daru oil Mill to attend DEC School Daru (Teacher Fallay father of Honorable Robin Fallay and the late Captain Wallace Fallah) was the Head Master. We had a great rivalry with them as we were pupils of DEC school Moa Barracks Daru ( Teacher Ngevao father of the former principal of COHMAS -Dr. Ngevoa  was our Head Master). 

Anyway, it was always the Barracks Boys versus the Daru Town Boys. I heard that Daru is now a very big Cosmopolitan Town. Thanks to then Captain SIM Turay, and later LMS Turay Moa Barracks used to rock as SIM Turay when he was adjutant brought a lot of social things to the Barracks on weekends.
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