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Temne boy
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This fellow must be SLLP.

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Temne boy
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Temne boy
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Don't you just love it when the forum SLPP brothers are running away with their tails under their legs when they cannot deny the truth anymore? Salone na we all yone and the truth of the matter is that our politicians, regardless of party or tribal affiliation, are very corrupt. APC and SLPP are all the same! Only when we, the people,  can call them out for who they really are, regardless of tribe and political affiliation, shall we start the healing process. 
KAMARA
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Are you  stating that this current government is also  corrupt and  that Sierra Leoneans should unite and put Sierra Leone first and work to save our  nation from the current malaise?
Temne boy
Reply with quote  #5 
Nice try but what I said, in a nut shell,  is that the SLPP folks should stop pretending that the APC is corrupt and their party is not. And the sooner we, the people, CALL them out for who they all are the better.
KAMARA
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The bottom line is many of the  African politicians are corrupt as they put themselves and their self interest before their nations. In sierra Leone whether it is by coincidence or blatant mismanagement , the major crises and catastrophes occur during APC's tenure in government from the rebel war, Ebola, serious  crime and the current mudslides.

Disasters do not discriminate when they occur. They affect Sierra Leoneans not a particular group or tribe.
It behooves us to unite and demand more from our current and future leaders.
Temne boy
Reply with quote  #7 
Kamara, my brother, you need to stop. You need to think through your messages and chose the right words before you post them. Otherwise you are always going to appear like a hypocrite or some one with lack of knowledge.

When it comes to corruption, you cited "African politicians" and not Sierra Leonean politicians, specifically.
You, however, have the audacity to blame the current government because calamity happens during their tenure. I don't know what else to do with you, my friend. Do you watch the video above where a corrupt Gendembu paramount chief is abusing the land for personal gain? This has been going on for long and see how you and your SLPP folks ran from responding or accepting this. And according to you, if a land slide is to hapoen during an APC tenure, the blame must be directed at the APC. With your brand of logic, Tejan Kabba and Bio cannot be blamed for this land slide. But there is evidence currently on this forum that timber corruption was all over Tejan Kabba's government. The trees on My. Aureol were being chopped during both Kabba's and Bio's tenure. You may want good for Salone but your words are way off.
Masoila
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Temne boy,

Kamara is by far a more enlightened man than you will ever be in your entire life.  Of course the major catastrophes that have befallen Salone have happened during APC tenure.  Is that not an irrefutable fact?

Let's start with the civil war.   What caused the civil war?  Predatory accumulation on the part of Siaka Stevens and his kleptocratic APC.  Do you understand what this means?  It is simply a set of unscrupulous actions taken on the part of leaders to acquire ill-gotten wealth at the expense of a citizenry.  Are you going to throw this at Sir Milton Margai and Sir Albert Margai?   When Sir Albert left office, Sierra Leone was the fastest growing economy in West Africa.  Go and check this fact in the history books.  Once Siaka Stevens and the APC took over, everything started going downhill.  

Ebola?  Ebola had existed in Guinea for months to even a year before the first case of that disease occurred in Sierra Leone.  What did Ernest Koroma and the APC do to protect Sierra Leone and its citizens from Ebola?  Nothing.   And what happened to the $34 million Ebola fund that disappeared under the nose of Ernest Koroma?  Are you also going to blame Tejan Kabba and Maada Bio for Ebola?

The mudslides and floods?  Yes, this is the outcome of climatic change and environmental abuse.  But question is, what did the government in power do to ameliorate the problem?  We never had these disasters during the tenures of Maada Bio and Tejan Kabba.  Under the APC, we've had them three times.  What has the APC government done to protect the country?  Ghana had floods in 2015 and the government of that country went all out to prevent a reoccurrence.  What has Ernest Koroma and the APC done?

Environment degradation and abuse have intensified under the APC.  Illegal lugging has quintupled since Ernest Koroma came to office.  The APC vice president was disgraced in a video that went viral globally with him soliciting bribes for illegal timber exploitation.  Moreover, issuing of illegal building permits for kickbacks have increased fourfold during the tenure of the ultra corrupt APC government.   What does all this mean?  That when it comes to governance, comparing the APC to the SLPP is tantamount to comparing apples to oranges.  The SLPP left power in 2007 without a single cent in national debt.  Today, Sierra Leone is a highly indebted nation.  Do you blame the SLPP for this?    

Employing all the dubious tricks in the books to win an election does nothing for you if you do not understand how to govern.  Today Sierra Leone is bankrupt thanks to Ernest Koroma and the APC.  Need I say anymore?
Sengbe
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Thank you very kindly, Bra Masoila, for that truthful articulate piece you have written above. The evidence is there for all to see, if you have eyes and can read objectively.

Everyone knows that corruption is a cankerworm in our society, and the major practitioners are the folks elevated as governors of the land. But the degree and extent of this practice lies mainly, and predominantly on the rouge rogues in power, and indeed ALL of the major calamities whether man-made or natural have occurred under the purview of this same rouge party of rogues in governance today and erstwhile. They have (mis)governed that nation for more that 40 years in the 56 years of "independence" from the Brits. Thus, the blame lies squarely on their shoulders more so than the verde boys and girls now in the "opposition". Nonetheless, we should hold them all in accounting for the deterioration in the land mass of S/Leone.

Now to the deforestation angle: Deforestation to clear the land for agriculture/farming/construction of new homes, etc. can hardly be considered a bad thing and an environmental hazard especially when soil erosion is not at stake and the land mass is flat. But when deforestation takes place on hillsides, or mountainous areas resulting in soil erosion due to the over-construction of buildings that house folks, whether they be shanty houses or mansions, and there is heavy torrential rainfalls annually, and massive flooding occurs in a particular geographic region - not once but three times already - and nothing tangible is done to arrest this anomaly, then the blame must fall somewhere, and that somewhere is to the governors under whose auspices/purview these sad natural events took place.

In conclusion, the deforestation occurring in Gbendembu is not as harmful to human life, the environment, etc., as the deforestation that takes place in Freetown along the hills resulting in massive mudslides, and the loss of human lives, when the torrential rains fall during raining season.
IMF Man
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Please permit me to get more specific. When Tejan Kabba handed over to this ayampi EBK in 2007, Sierra Leone zero debt. Zero. Ten years later, we are now [as of July 1 2007], 1.978 Billion USD in debt. Where did the money go:
Mansions and private investments by EBK and his gang - both @ home and abroad
Frivolous charter flights globetrotting with large hanger-on crowd - mostly shopping and dancing "senam go down"
State sponsored looting as EBK, Alpha Kanu, Kemoh Sesay, Afsatu Kabba, John Sisay etc exemplify. Even the pension fund (NASIT) has not been spared

 
Temne boy
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"Kamara is by far a more enlightened man than you will ever be in your entire life."
ByMasoila

Birds of the same feather flock together. So if Kamara is in denal, every bird that looks and quacks like him will be in denial. There is a video at the top of this thread that demanded your attention since it was posted. It reveals a corrupt paramount chief in Gbendembu caught in the act. The very crime you folks are accusing others of. And what happens...you ran away from it like hot potatoes. You don't want to hear about it nor discuss it. It hurts your empty pride! The closest anyone of you came to discussing this topic is when Sengbe proves once more that you people are in denial by making this unworthy statement:   

"In conclusion, the deforestation occurring in Gbendembu is not as harmful to human life, the environment, etc., as the deforestation that takes place in Freetown along the hills resulting in massive mudslides, and the loss of human lives,.."

Making comparisons to protect the thieving in Gbendembu, right? Well you know what, Sengbe, you cannot change history but you can learn from it. Gbendembu may not be in danger for a flood, but ask yourself what other environmental problems that may take place after that crook of a paramount chief, and others around the country, are dead and gone? Is that when you are going to blame the party in power? And most likely the APC?

"Everyone knows that corruption is a cankerworm in our society, and the major practitioners are the folks elevated as governors of the land." By Sengbe

This is exactly the case. Why don't you make an example of the corrupt Gbendembu paramount chief and his compatriots all around Salone? THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PEOPLE. YOU ONLY SEE THE SINS OF OTHERS AND SHAMEFULLY PRETENDS LIKE YOU ARE WITHOUT SINS. 

And to Kamara, take note, take note, ok? You like to accuse Temnes of not wanting to talk to Mendes. But how can you talk to people who are in constant denial and hardly accept responsibility?






Sengbe
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I guess you did NOT hear me before, so let me say again:

Deforestation to clear the land for agriculture/farming/construction of new homes, etc. can hardly be considered a bad thing and an environmental hazard especially when soil erosion is not at stake and the land mass is flat. But when deforestation takes place on hillsides, or mountainous areas resulting in soil erosion due to the over-construction of buildings that house folks, whether they be shanty houses or mansions, and there is heavy torrential rainfalls annually, and massive flooding occurs in a particular geographic region - not once but three times already - and nothing tangible is done to arrest this anomaly, then the blame must fall somewhere, and that somewhere is to the governors under whose auspices/purview these sad natural events took place.

I do believe that the statement above portends the absolute sane truth [for the survivability of human beings in SL], and nothing but the truth, so help me God. Now if you want to pursue the obvious through the corruption angle in the nation, please do so by all means. I coming at you through the merits and demerits of deforestation vis a vis clearing the land for agricultural purposes, and the building of towns, and cities, etc.
Temne boy
Reply with quote  #13 
Sengbe, FOR GOODNESS SAKE LISTEN TO THE VIDEO!!!
This was NOT for agriculture/farming/construction, it was for personal gain for the paramount chief. Chai!!! This is going on all over the country with those local leaders. If you care for Salone as you want us to believe, be honest with yourself at least. This is all I am asking.
Karim Thorlu
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"There is a video at the top of this thread that demanded your attention since it was posted. It reveals a corrupt paramount chief in Gbendembu caught in the act. The very crime you folks are accusing others of. And what happens...you ran away from it like hot potatoes."  Temne boy


Temne boy,

You posted a video of the paramount chief of Gbendembu but did not post the one about the APC vice president, Samuel Samsumana taking bribes?  Think you are smart?

Nobody is running away from the Gbendembu video as you purport.  Interestingly, that video answers the very questions that you are asking.  

Tell me, when was the video recorded?  Where in Sierra Leone is Gbendembu located?  Bingo!!! You have your answers.
Temne boy
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"You posted a video of the paramount chief of Gbendembu but did not post the one about the APC vice president, Samuel Samsumana taking bribes?  Think you are smart?"

Nonsense! If you really  are following this thread and my other writings, you will find out that I am not defending the APC. My take is that the APC is as crooked as the SLPP.  The problem with you, Sengbe, Kamara and others is that you will never accept that the SLPP is crooked. Even with a video showing a crooked and corrupt Gbendembu paramount chief, you guys are still in denial. What are you people protecting? 
Kamara
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Temne Boy, No sane Sierra Leonean can claim that there was no corruption in the SLPP governments or that SLPP officials were all angels. There are corrupt government officials in the good old USA. The issue is that the APC governments have taken corruption to monumental levels. since the kleptocratic APC took power in the late 1960s, it has destroyed the nation's moral fabric and made corruption a normal way of life. Hence that is why all the tragedies unfortunately happen under APC governments. APC governments are more busy enriching themselves and relatives instead worrying about the country. 

The country is practically bankrupt after 10 years of APC governance. What do they have to show apart from millionaire officials. Wake up and face the truth. The government's penchant for corruption and greed has destroyed a promising and beautiful land.



Temne boy
Reply with quote  #17 
I agree with you and there is no evidence that if the SLPP or any other party were in power, that party would not have done the same. The longer I live the more I believe we are generally a very corrupt people. Our politicians do not come from Mars, they are Sierra Leoneans. It appears to me that those politicians were the very ones that stood against corruption until they in power. May God help Salone!
Masoila
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Temne boy,

There is something that is called empirical evidence.  Use it if you claim to be an educated person.  

Once again, the enlightened Kamara has taken you to school but your skull is just too thick to learn.

The reason why I mentioned the term empirical evidence is simply to demonstrate that although corruption has always been a part and parcel of life in Sierra Leone, there has always been a big difference in magnitude when the SLPP is in power versus when the APC is in power.  This is what the brilliant Kamara has been trying to lecture you on with no success.

It follows that since corruption has always been at a lower magnitude under the SLPP as the Transparency International statistics have shown, Salone's economy has always had better growth rates under the SLPP than the APC.  Is this very difficult to understand?
Temne boy
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"The reason why I mentioned the term empirical evidence is simply to demonstrate that although corruption has always been a part and parcel of life in Sierra Leone, there has always been a big difference in magnitude when the SLPP is in power versus when the APC is in power"

You don't have to be angry at me; just appreciate the fact that only a Temne boy like me is able to calibrate your skull to finally give some signifance to the fact that the SLPP is corrupt. But please hold on to your scale and continue debating with me. Eventually your arithmetic will be corrected. But to say the least, I am proud of you and Kamara to at least accept that the SLPP is corrupt. This is something unheard of in the world of denial you people are living. 

Now let me educate you a bit, ok? The APC thieving mechanics are easy to be identified because they are in power. So, "THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MAGNITUDE". You got that right, Peggy!  This is exactly the complains against the SLPP when they were in power. They were so good at thieving they haven't see power since donkey years. But again, congratulations, you are getting very close to accepting the facts that both APC and SLPP are the same.
Masoila
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Temne boy,

It is sometimes extremely frustrating to debate with you.  Do you really comprehend what you read?  Would you expect any sane individual to declare that the SLPP is corruption free?  Or do you believe that there are corruption-free countries in the world?  Because there are no corruption-free societies in the world explains why I argued that SLPP corruption versus APC corruption is a matter of magnitude.

And in case you have no idea as to what Transparency International is, it is an international non-governmental organization (NGO) that publishes the Global Corruption Barometer and the Corruption Perceptions index on a yearly basis.  In other words, Trasparency International's statistics reveal the most corrupt countries and the least corrupt countries in the world.  So whenever you have some time, look at the indices for Sierra Leone in the years of the SLPP and contrast them with the years of the APC and you  will get an idea as to which of these two parties aids and abets corruption more the other.  

Ay bo ow Temne man fool so?
Temne boy
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"It is sometimes extremely frustrating to debate with you.  Do you really comprehend what you read?  Would you expect any sane individual to declare that the SLPP is corruption free?"

Masoila, you SLPP folks are insane that is why no one, until now, believed SLPP supporters will ever DECLARE that their party is corruption free. Chances are you say so amongst yourself but not in public. But with the exception to the "magnitude" word of comparison, kudos to you and Kamara for being the first to publicly say the SLPP is corrupt. I hope others like Sengbe join your ranks.
Temne boy
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Excuse my autofills I meant to say yourselves not yourself. Ay bo how Mende man get deny so? Na tupit dem tupit? Oh ar forget den get problem with insanity. Way Dr. Nahim when we need am?
Sahr Philie
Reply with quote  #23 
Temne Boy, you are so enlightened that you know the geography of your back yard.
Where do you think Gbendembu is in Sierra Leone, Mende Land? Tupit, it is in Bombalili District. The video you posted above is from the Aljazeera Clip against Sam Sumana the former Tiff Pee Under Adebuy All.Momoh Konteh who is shown receiving money from the under cover reporters in the clip has been elevated to head NATCOM by Ade Buy All. What does this tell you? To me it says volume of Ade Buy All's complexities in the entire corruption in our Timber deforestation.

Sam Sumana in any serious country should be in jail for that Aljazeera exposure. No Under the APC he was chosen as the 2012 presidential candidate. He was never investigated and indicted. And to the chagrin of all Sierra Leone, the only crime for which he was butted was insulting the elders in the APC a crime that is more grievous than corruption as far the eyes of Ade Buy All can see.

For your EDUCATION READ THIS:
"Gbendembu is the chiefdom seat town in the Gbendembu Ngowahun Chiefdom (an amalgamated Chiefdom), in the Bombali District, Northern Province of Sierra Leone. It is located about 30 miles north west of Makeni, Sierra Leone's Northern provincial city...."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbendembu
Temne boy
Reply with quote  #24 
Johnny come lately stop cherry picking and read both this thread and that from 100 years of solitude in their entirety.
Hopefully you will come up with a different take.
T Boy
Reply with quote  #25 
Liar! liar Temne Boy is a liar. wow
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