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I know I cannot vote in a presidential / general election in Saro at the present time, due to the fact that I have not been in residence in that motherland of ours for a very long time. Everyone knows my partisan leaning in that country; it has been the SLPP from birth. But the undemocratic and uncivilized activities of some sectors in the SLPP have made me reconsider my "blind" loyalty to the party, which I now believe should be more pragmatic in reality than the sentimentality involved in supportive blind loyalty culturally, especially if one is not on the ground to witness these activities face-to-face. One is only provided with second-hand information relative to these sordid activities which could be correctly provided in many cases. This means that one does not have
prima facie evidence to substantiate the truisms in these uncivilized actions. The sordid partisan activities I am alluding to in the SLPP involve the Pa-O-Pa brigade that vehemently supports the retired military guy who served as the standard bearer of the SLPP during the last presidential election in the year 2012. He lost that election handily. I admire the young man for his patriotic ambition in trying to uplift the nation in his own way, but the undemocratic uncivilized actions his loyal supporters impose on the majority of their partisan colleagues, and other citizens of the land, disgusts any patriotic person to the extent of wanting to puke behind closed doors in the toilet. No one is against the vehemence in their blind loyalty to the guy, but the way they go about it is quite sickening. This has led many folks on the ground to turn their backs on his political ambition in the nation. Thus, it might be quite impossible for him to succeed in achieving that goal in his ambition, if he does not put a collective leash on his attack dogs. If these sordid activities persist as violently as they have been portrayed, the enthusiasm that many once had for the SLPP would be mitigated to a very marked degree, after all partisan politics must not appear to be a sport in human blood especially amongst intra-partisan supporters in various ways. Some form of respectability must be rendered to differing views. Under these circumstances folks might be forced to find other avenues in exercising their political franchise. It is just the right thing to do if guilt by association is to be avoided in the future. For me personally, if the other major party that is currently running the governance structure in Saro, finds it wise enough to field the current VP as their standard bearer in the next presidential elections - a person that I have known my whole life in that we hail from the same town, chiefdom and district, it would be foolhardy for me to support the SLPP candidate, for obvious reasons. So these are the circumstances under which I'd support the APC candidate both financially, morally, and electorally. Put a leash on the attack dogs, Maada, or you'd be the loser otherwise! Let sanity prevail in the SLPP. No dictatorship allowed in the SLPP. Please see to it. This caution is provided for the other aspiring candidates as well.
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"Under these circumstances folks might be forced to find other avenues in exercising their political franchise. It is just the right thing to do if guilt by association is to be avoided in the future." Sengbe The above quote resonates with many SLPP supporters. Maada Bio and his Paopa supporters will soon be left to run the party while others will throw their support to the new party/parties that will emerge after the silly SLPP convention in February.
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You caught my drift very well in that response of yours in the thread. Na so ee go be mah!! Me day na America forss. Leh dem negroes kill demselves for politricks na Saro.
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@Sengbe, perhaps we should form the APP (All Peoples Party) taking progressives from APC and SLPP ?.
Do you worry not that the VP might have too much baggage from the 80's?
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It was once said at a Criminal Justice Training Academy that one of the things they have to discern when the get into the field is not to make conclusion on hearing one side of the story, It is truism that the first person to lodge a complaint would say that he or she did not do anything to the person he/she is making the complaint about. However on proper investigation mostly the one who makes the most noise or complain would be found wanting ti either have instigated the palaver of provoke the other,
Bio has been in the UK for closed to four years since he lost the 2012 elections. In his almost 80% absence, the SLPP has been embroiled in one problem to the other and yet people say it is Bio. John Benjamin who came to the SLPP after his failed NUP bid has vowed from the onset that he will deny Bio the opportunity to become president of Sierra Leone simply because Bio refused to make him number 2 m,an when he got rid of Strasser. This Benjamin man has employed Journalist, and others within the SLPP to paint Bio as the trouble make even when the guy was busy studying. Sengbe, you need not explain to anyone why you would support your village mate and brother Victor Foh if the APC crown him as their flag bearer. Who would not? I am therefore perturbed that you want to use the impasse in the SLPP to justify something that is justifiable. Bio is not the only problem in the SLPP. SLPP has always been a problem party. It was responsible for their demised in 1967. In 1996, people thought they have come of age but nay, it is in the DNA of the SLPP. If they are not undermining their own popular politician with lies and hate, they would be stabbing one another in the back.
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So Sengbe will support the APC if his Mende brother is the flagbearer. And this is my favorite branlaw who accused me of leaving the SLPP because of my kothors. Well, as the clock ticks the more we learn. Even Fen Plaba, unknown to me until recently, is a diehard SLPPER. Musa Kenema and Dorbaleh King, what are your future political plans?
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There he goes again. He did not properly comprehend the learned professor's comments . Dis boy ya fool.
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@ Sao: I did NOT state that Bio was the problem in the SLPP nowadays. I stated very clearly that the PA-O-PA brigade in the corps of his supporters is the main problem for him to be nationally elected if he happens to win as the SLPP standard bearer again. And my caution was extended to all of the other aspirants in the party, as per the following quotations extracted from above:
"... I admire the young man for his patriotic ambition in trying to uplift the nation in his own way, but the undemocratic uncivilized actions his loyal supporters impose on the majority of their partisan colleagues, and other citizens of the land, disgusts any patriotic person to the extent of wanting to puke behind closed doors in the toilet..." "...The sordid partisan activities I am alluding to in the SLPP involve the Pa-O-Pa brigade that vehemently supports the retired military guy who served as the standard bearer of the SLPP during the last presidential election in the year 2012..." "...This caution is provided for the other aspiring candidates as well..." So you see, I am NOT against BIO the aspiring candidate. I am against the intimidation and violence perpetuated against colleagues vying for the same ambition through his wayward supporters. @ KL for the following error in his assertion: "...So Sengbe will support the APC if his Mende brother is the flagbearer..." Dirado is quite right about you in this regard. "...And this is my favorite branlaw..." Never call me branlaw again until Lady J comes back to me. Please see to that. @ Sao again: "...Sengbe, you need not explain to anyone why you would support your village mate and brother Victor Foh if the APC crown him as their flag bearer. Who would not?..." Indeed! But will they? Big question.
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Quoting DMK: "...perhaps we should form the APP (All Peoples Party) taking progressives from APC and SLPP?..."
Excellent idea, DMK! The only problem I foresee is in the acronym - APP. Too close to APC minus the last letter. How about PPP - Progressive Peoples Party? Is there a political party using that acronym in Saro at the present time?
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@ DMK again:
"...Do you worry not that the VP might have too much baggage from the 80's?..." Did he not have the same baggage in the '90s and in the 21st century when he was selected as Ambassador to China? and elevated to the Vice Presidency? We cannot tell what the future holds for him relative to his ascension to the presidency of Saro. VP is a very shrewd politrickcian in the Saro sense. He has been plying that highway in politics for nearly 50 years. Plus ee geh the koppor, and as you know: money talks, nobody walks! especially in Saro. More power to him!
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Sengbeh, an interesting point. I am equally frustrated by the emerging choices in Sierra Leone, which as far as I can see and tell offer only more of the same failures we have endured for all these decades.
The APC has ruled us for some forty years, which is sufficient time for them to have proved their worth. They have only proved their worthlessness. I am also completely baffled by lingering "loyalty"' to Bio, if loyalty is in fact what explains support for him. We need a president with vision to salvage the country. We need a president who can attract and surround him/herself with people who have management ability cum integrity to manage the country's affairs. We need a president who can commit to sincere efforts to unite the people. Sierra Leone for the foreseeable future is going to need the goodwill and generosity of the international community. Bio as far as I can see is a total dud on everyone of these crucial issues; and with the "we first" crowds taking charge in Washington DC, London, and very soon Paris and perhaps elsewhere; the situation is very critical. But Victor Foh? I am appalled and don't understand this preference. As far as I am concerned, you will have to make a case beyond knowing him for your entire life. Not long ago a dear friend who happens to be an Old Bo School Boy told me he supported Bio because he was a "Bo School Boy". Perhaps this is the challenge that faces every Sierra Leonean. There is no more margin for error and it is time for each of us to look beyond our own relatives, the people we know, and those who are our fellow alumni, to search for leaders who will be effective; It is the least that especially we in the diaspora can do for Sierra Leone.
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Sengbe, stop the kalokalo, bro. Sao and I cannot be wrong. There is no other way to interpret your statement. Me sister don tire wit u denial.
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"Not long ago a dear friend who happens to be an Old Bo School Boy told me he supported Bio because he was a "Bo School Boy". " Knice
Knice, Interesting point. I hail from Bo and have visiting quite frequently in the last five years. What I have noticed on the ground there is that the rivalry between Maada Bio and Kandeh Yumkella in SLPP politics has intensified the old rivalry between Bo School and CKC, the two most prestigious high schools in the provinces. While many Bo School alumni have lined up behind Maada Bio, many CKC alumni have lined up behind Kandeh Yumkella, a former senior prefect of CKC. I happen to be an alum of one of these two powerful schools but just cannot see myself supporting any of two candidates, at least not on the basis school affiliation. SLPP's leadership cannot be decided on the basis of a boneheaded rivalry between two schools.
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"...But Victor Foh? I am appalled and don't understand this preference. As far as I am concerned, you will have to make a case beyond knowing him for your entire life..." He is not really my primary preference under normal circumstances as a lifelong SLPPian. But if the sordid activities of the Pa-O-Pa brigade enables Bio to win the flagbearer position for the SLPP as the only de facto candidate with no opposition from the other aspirants in abstention due to these sordid activities, and VP Victor is selected by the APC to run against him, I'd register my displeasure by supporting the "devil I know, rather than the "angel" that I do not know", especially if that "devil" will bring development to my Bagbo chiefdom. I am NOT recommending this "preference" to anyone else. This is what I'd consider personally. I am not assuring anyone that this is the best thing that will happen to SL. But the fact that with all of this heavy load he has carried for almost 45 years and he has been rewarded with the Vice Presidency has a lot to do with his dexterity as a shrewd experienced politician. Remember, I am 'speaking' from afar in this case. It might be very unlikely that this scenario will hold sway in the near future in Saro politics. But if it does, I will stand in that hot water. I do not wish this on the nation, but ... Do you know of a suitable candidate that matches the description you have offered for leadership in that country presently? Personally I do not know about him or her. @ KL: "...Me sister don tire wit u denial..." Oose denial u day torke bot?
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"@ KL: "...Me sister don tire wit u denial..." Oose denial u day torke bot?" (Sengbe )
The denial that supporting/supporting Victor Foh for the APC president is not supporting the APC. May be you have a different definition for "guilty by association".
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@Sengbe, the VP was selected for those positions you mention. In a presidential election he will have a lot thrown at him. Just saying, nothing personal. The old man is actually a distant relative of mine on the maternal side though we've never met.
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Sengbeh, you have rescued my weekend and I am breathing easier. As I said, Bio is unacceptable to me as well. This really puts us SLPP-ians in a quandary. Remember that Bio is the APC preferred SLPP nominee, which should give you food for thought.
To me the persistence of the Bio phenomenon is emblematic of the total chaos that engulfs the Sierra Leonean body politic. We must seek to effectively replace this chaos with order and steadfast constitutional procedures for Sierra Leone to escape degeneration into an even more sordid joke than she already is. I talk to relatives and friends in Sierra Leone every weekend and the pervasive and rising poverty, suffering, and despair that they report is numbing; and very sad because it is so unnecessary.
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"...The denial that supporting/supporting Victor Foh for the APC president is not supporting the APC..." KL
Oose tem you talk to ram for mek ee tell u so? Mek esef call me ehn tell me dat. Man we have been on Saro fora in cyberspace for 20 years, have you ever seen me in political support of the Akata Peoples Congress (APC)? Be for real! My support for my cousin, if he is selected as the APC standard bearer in 2018 is purely a selfish act on my part for the sake of putting our Chiefdom on the map relative to the development of that Chiefdom and area in general. The impasse with the confines of the SLPP at the present time is the catalyst that would propel that act on my part if his selection comes into effect. There is no way I can be in support of a backward party like the APC as a whole, rest assured. @ Knice: I am happy that your weekend has been rescued by the clarifications I have offered.
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Ok Sengbe just be careful what you wish for. Sooner or later you will find out that the APC will be more important to your cousin than you and your wishes. Good luck!
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"...Sooner or later you will find out that the APC will be more important to your cousin than you and your wishes... He is the most loyal APC member in the history of that party for almost 50 years. It is about time for the party to reward him for such loyalty with the standard bearer consideration. Don't you think? Tell u sista howdo for me. Ee know say ar still lek ahm. Na me paddi.@ DMK Ar nor doubt u at all, Bra.
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Sengbe, just in case you haven't learned your lesson, loyalty, as in the SLPP, is not an option. In the APC party, your cousin will have to earn it.
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By the way I suggest your cousin to request assignments from the president that will prepare him not only for the job, but for his campaign. So far he appears like the president's side kick; more like the fellow he replaced who was more of a ceremonial than real.
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By the way I suggest your cousin to request assignments from the president that will prepare him not only for the job, but for his campaign..." KL Which President are you alluding to? Ade-buy-all (EBK)? Are you kidding? VP Victor made him what he is today. Without VP Foh, EBK would NOT have ascended to the presidency in na we Saro. Why do you think he rewarded him with the Vice-Presidency after Sumana? Never underestimate VP Foh in APC circles, and Saro politricks. He is a survival. You go learn!
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Seriously, Sengbe! Are you kidding me? Did you give this enough thoughts? If Victor Foh is the one who made "Ade-buy-all (EBK)" what he is today then why do you want him to take after him? Can you give me a sober answer or are you going to come back and say I do not comprehend what you wrote?
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You are quite correct; you do not "comprehend" the intricacies of politics in Saro. VP Victor was the right hand man of Pa Shaki, with such baggage how could he have succeeded in wearing the crown? He gave it to a lesser evil until the time was ripe for him to take his rightful place in hierarchy of the APC. Were you alive during that period? Na dat mek.
Borbor lef me sarful ar day teach now.
Bo Town Guy
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"By the way I suggest your cousin to request assignments from the president that will prepare him not only for the job, but for his campaign. So far he appears like the president's side kick; more like the fellow he replaced who was more of a ceremonial than real." KL The above is just another evidence that King Loggy is either plain stupid or is simply not in touch with developments in Salone. Who do you think helped stabilize the political environment in Salone on the onset of the fallout from the Sam Sumana saga? And you are talking about VP Victor Foh requesting assignments from the president? Where have you been? Do you really know who VP Foh is? He is one of shrewdest politicians alive in Salone today. A brilliant guy from the great district and city of BO. Underestimate him to your detriment. And you have the guts to compare Victor Foh with deadwood Sam Sumana?
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Dis me former branlaw na case! You could have been a better lawyer than a chemistry professor. Any way go back to the classroom.
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I AM BOTH! If you did not know that. I have many awards to prove that fact.
Why, na becus ar day cam na Bintumani mek u wan for fiteye me? Porrreh! Betteh!
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Get this straight...ar respect "Sengbe" the man but disagree with many of him political ideas. But thank goodness he is taking baby steps away from the good ole' party and towards the party of Pa Stevens via him corrupt APC, ade buy all, cousin.